# MLB: June 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 1, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850 "2017-06-01T17:15:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/101 "2017-06-17T07:18:10Z")

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[quote=“from\_a\_to\_z, post:100, topic:787850”]

As a 30-second respite from politics and greed and such, we go to the top of the 3rd inning on Friday evening, June 16, 2017, in Great American Ball Park. Dodgers playing the Reds. In the top of the 1st, Justin Turner hit a single to extend his hitting streak to 12 games. Now it’s the top of the 3rd…  
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[li]29-year-old Los Angeles Dodgers TV announcer [Joe Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Davis_(sportscaster)), interestedly: “Talk about Justin Turner’s average overall bein’ three seventy-seven comin’ in, when you narrow it down to just this hitting streak it’s over four fifty.”[/li][li]58-year-old [Orel Hershiser](http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Orel_Hershiser), former 204-game winner, emphatically: “That’s hot.” (followed by 10 seconds of dead air as Turner preps for getting into the batter’s box)[/li][li]Joe, matter-of-factly: “You’re not the best analyst in the biz for nothin’, Hershiser.”[/li][/ul][/QUOTE  
I heard that exchange. I cried.

/Reds fan

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/102 "2017-06-17T16:32:55Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Mounting injuries for the Yanks on this thus far 1 & 3 West Coast swing.

Sorry, but the Mets lead the Yankees in MRIs and trips to the DL by a considerable margin.

Right now, their DL list includes two starters (Harvey and Syndergaard), the closer (Familia) and three infielders (Cabrera, Walker and Wright). It’s news when a Mets game _doesn’t_ involve a serious injury to a valuable player.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/103 "2017-06-17T17:15:13Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Sorry, but the Mets lead the Yankees in MRIs and trips to the DL by a considerable margin.
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> Right now, their DL list includes two starters (Harvey and Syndergaard), the closer (Familia) and three infielders (Cabrera, Walker and Wright). It’s news when a Mets game _doesn’t_ involve a serious injury to a valuable player.

All true and I’ll happily concede the competition for tops on the DL to the Mets.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/104 "2017-06-17T20:28:05Z")

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> [@from\_a\_to\_z](#):
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> As a 30-second respite from politics and greed and such, we go to the top of the 3rd inning on Friday evening, June 16, 2017, in Great American Ball Park. Dodgers playing the Reds. In the top of the 1st, Justin Turner hit a single to extend his hitting streak to 12 games. Now it’s the top of the 3rd…  
> [ul]  
> [li]29-year-old Los Angeles Dodgers TV announcer [Joe Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Davis_(sportscaster)), interestedly: “Talk about Justin Turner’s average overall bein’ three seventy-seven comin’ in, when you narrow it down to just this hitting streak it’s over four fifty.”[/li][li]58-year-old [Orel Hershiser](http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Orel_Hershiser), former 204-game winner, emphatically: “That’s hot.” (followed by 10 seconds of dead air as Turner preps for getting into the batter’s box)[/li][li]Joe, matter-of-factly: “You’re not the best analyst in the biz for nothin’, Hershiser.”[/li][/ul]

I just assumed that Hersheiser was quoting the great philosopher Paris Hilton.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/105 "2017-06-18T01:43:53Z")

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Because Jake Arrieta hitting a 2 run home run is exactly what you’d expect! Cubs 2 Pirates 2  
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/106 "2017-06-18T15:07:31Z")

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Does anybody know what the hell is wrong with Rick Porcello and why it isn’t fixed yet? I mean _damn_.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/107 "2017-06-19T13:28:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Does anybody know what the hell is wrong with Rick Porcello and why it isn’t fixed yet? I mean _damn_.

I’m thinking Cy Young hangover. I don’t think there’s a health issue because he’s throwing as hard or harder than last year. Never thought he’d repeat last season, but didn’t think he’d be this bad, either.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/108 "2017-06-19T14:20:28Z")

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Anyone else having trouble getting MLB’s website this morning?

On the plus side, the 404 error animated gifs they’ve got up are making me laugh.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/109 "2017-06-19T15:15:57Z")

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Porcello

1. Is not well supported by his defense, which has been weirdly bad when he is pitching, and

2. Seems to be giving up an unusually epic number of hard hits.

#2 is the hard one to diagnose because it has so much to do with his mix of pitches, approach, velocity, and a zillion other things. I have read it theorized that Porcello, who has always been a control pitcher, is trying too hard to strike men out (his strikeout rate is the highest it’s ever been) which is giving him a few more strikeouts but causing him to miss his location more. That would certainly explain the huge glut of base hits and home runs; if you are going too far in your efforts to strike men out you’ll often miss IN the zone and serve up a meatball.

Of course, it also may be that this is actually how good Porcello is. Remember, he was pretty bad in 2015, in more or less the same way; he wasn’t walking guys, they were just squaring up his pitches and beating them like rented mules. 2016 is the outlier in Porcello’s career; he has usually been a guy who was reliable enough to pitch a lot of innings but always got hit pretty hard. If you adjust for the support he’s gotten from his D, he’s the same this year as he was two years ago.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/110 "2017-06-19T17:36:05Z")

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Betts must have been awfully thankful to [get out of the seventh](http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/mookie-betts-injury-red-sox-astros-sunday-night-baseball-knee-elbow/ly3x7hkc4del1fa88ijevhlwg) under his own power.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/111 "2017-06-19T17:41:37Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> Betts must have been awfully thankful to [get out of the seventh](http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/mookie-betts-injury-red-sox-astros-sunday-night-baseball-knee-elbow/ly3x7hkc4del1fa88ijevhlwg) under his own power.

He still needed a head shot while scoring to match [Piscotty.](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2701928-cardinals-stephen-piscotty-gets-hit-by-ball-3-times-in-1-inning-vs-cubs)

:eek:  
😃

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/112 "2017-06-19T18:53:07Z")

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Trade talk is starting to heat up a little bit. The Red Sox may look for a third baseman. Having just taken 2 of 3 from the Astros in Houston and pulled up to even with the NYY, they’re feeling pretty good right now. Not sure who’s available at 3B that I like. I’m not crazy about a guy like Todd Frazier. But if it’s between giving up a little bit for him or giving up a lot for Mike Moustakas, I’ll take Frazier.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/113 "2017-06-19T18:55:37Z")

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Moustakas is in his contract year, so he might not be too expensive. He’s just better than Frazier anyway.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/114 "2017-06-21T19:54:26Z")

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In case anyone missed day baseball, Max Scherzer took a no-hitter into the bottom of the eighth. He pitched a complete game but managed to take the loss after a lucky bounce, some bad defense, and a pretty bad “strike” call to end the game. Granted, some of it was on him, but I feel for him.

[http://m.nationals.mlb.com/news/article/237823848/marlins-rally-to-beat-max-scherzer-nationals/](http://m.nationals.mlb.com/news/article/237823848/marlins-rally-to-beat-max-scherzer-nationals/)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/115 "2017-06-21T20:12:06Z")

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7 straight losses for the Yanks, it has been a long time since I’ve seen this kind of slide for my team. I think it is over a decade.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/116 "2017-06-21T20:27:05Z")

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Speaking of day baseball, the Red Sox (ahem, \*first place \*Red Sox) are currently leading the Royals 4-2. Nice outing from Drew Pomeranz so far.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/117 "2017-06-21T20:48:38Z")

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It was all Panda’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/118 "2017-06-21T20:58:11Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Speaking of day baseball, the Red Sox (ahem, \*first place \*Red Sox) are currently leading the Royals 4-2. Nice outing from Drew Pomeranz so far.

Bottom of the 8th. Shhh!!! Did Scherzer teach you nothing today?

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/119 "2017-06-21T21:08:23Z")

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Grrr…

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/120 "2017-06-21T23:57:30Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Speaking of day baseball, the Red Sox (ahem, \*first place \*Red Sox) are currently leading the Royals 4-2. Nice outing from Drew Pomeranz so far.

LOL.

The Royals’ comeback cost me a W in my Fantasy League, where Pomeranz is one of my starters.

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