# MLB: June 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [June 1, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387 "2024-06-01T18:26:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/61 "2024-06-18T21:01:57Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> We somehow managed to win many games while he was out, and that was the headline. “Guardians win a lot of games without Kwan! But we still miss Kwan!”
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> We just lost 2 games while Jose Ramirez was on the Paternity List, tho.

Yep. Kwan gets on alot, but he needs someone to drive him in and Jose is the best at that.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/62 "2024-06-18T21:06:55Z")

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Any particular reason for the two missing teams?

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/63 "2024-06-18T23:10:39Z")

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For some reason, [MLB.TV](http://MLB.TV) is showing me the Orioles-Yankees game when I am trying to tune in on the Nationals.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/64 "2024-06-18T23:59:05Z")

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Seattle is Logan Gilbert, 1.9, remarkably low for a division leader. Texas is Josh Smith, 2.9.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/65 "2024-06-19T00:36:09Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Seattle is Logan Gilbert, 1.9,

Did you miss George Kirby at 2.1?

(Still low though.)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/66 "2024-06-19T01:26:03Z")

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Willie Mays has passed. Age 93.

> **[Baseball icon Willie Mays, one of the game’s most electrifying and complete...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/18/sport/willie-mays-dies/index.html)**
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> Willie Mays, the dynamic baseball Hall of Famer who shined in all facets of the game and made a dramatic catch in the 1954 World Series, has passed away at the age of 93, the San Francisco Giants announced on social media Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/67 "2024-06-20T12:21:27Z")

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Ninth inning rally wasted by Yankees as Chapman- I mean Holmes- flops again.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/68 "2024-06-21T02:00:17Z")

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Orioles crush the Yankees in a 17-5 blowout.

> **[MLB Gameday: Orioles 17, Yankees 5 Final Score (06/20/2024)](https://www.mlb.com/gameday/orioles-vs-yankees/2024/06/20/745734/final/wrap)**
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> Follow MLB results with FREE box scores, pitch-by-pitch strikezone info, and Statcast data for Orioles vs. Yankees at Yankee Stadium

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/69 "2024-06-21T11:52:04Z")

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And swapped places in run differentials in one game.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/70 "2024-06-21T17:16:50Z")

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Brewers rookie pitcher [Robert Gasser](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40397549/brewers-rookie-robert-gasser-opts-tommy-john-surgery) opts to have Tommy John surgery, sidelining him got approximately the next 12 months.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/71 "2024-06-23T04:52:37Z")

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Ohtani has had 6 or 7 HRs in the last few games and suddenly jumped up to No. 3 in the home run leader board.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/72 "2024-06-23T13:42:57Z")

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Moving Ohtani to the lead-off spot is really paying off for the Dodgers. We’ll see how they adjust when Mookie gets back.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/73 "2024-06-24T18:11:36Z")

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I have to admit two things about this play. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen this happen before, and I did not know the rule that applies.

[Justin Turner ruled safe after replay confirmed obscure MLB rule in bizarre play (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/justin-turner-ruled-safe-after-replay-confirmed-obscure-mlb-rule-in-bizarre-play/ar-BB1oKEi5?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=8bbf473cbf5f40ff86ee8c237a1541c7&ei=7)

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/74 "2024-06-24T20:29:40Z")

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I dunno if I’ve ever heard of it before either but it seemed like a common sense rule to me, anyway.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/75 "2024-06-24T21:02:16Z")

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Apparently that’s the baseball equivalent of defensive countermeasures. Giving the defender something to tag that isn’t the baserunner.

Of course, the gear has to come off by accident, so impossible to do on command (and would be an out if it was judged to be intentional).

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/76 "2024-06-24T21:32:29Z")

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Speaking of oddities, the Nats lost to the Rockies Saturday night when a time clock violation was called on reliever Kyle Finnegan with the count 3-2 and the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth in an 7-7 game. So, a walk-off clock violation, the first ever.

(The pitch would have been ball four anyway.)

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/77 "2024-06-24T22:39:42Z")

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What’s odd about this is that the tag pressed the helmet against Turner’s body. It seems to me that should be an out. If the helmet was just lying on the ground away from the runner, of course the tag would not be valid.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/78 "2024-06-24T23:53:26Z")

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> If the helmet was just lying on the ground away from the runner, of course the tag would not be valid.

If the helmet had bounced away out of the play, the tag probably would have been applied on the runner before he reached the bag. But the rule is clear, and the runner was correctly ruled safe.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/79 "2024-06-25T01:09:34Z")

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> [@Jaycat.again](#):
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> So, a walk-off clock violation, the first ever.

As someone who was advocating for the pitch clock for some time now, I say… Good. If we want it to impact the game it has to matter, and if it actually decides a game then it obviously matters.

And as you pointed out, it was pretty much incidental if the pitch was going to be a ball anyway and it would have led to a walk-off walk (wait, would that be what it was called?) and anyway this is unlikely to happen often.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2024/1002387/80 "2024-06-25T03:46:23Z")

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Does anyone know if TBS games are available on [MLB.TV](http://MLB.TV) a couple of hours after the game is over? I know ESPN games are. Mets/Yankees tomorrow

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