# MLB-June 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [June 1, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079 "2025-06-01T19:26:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/101 "2025-06-17T21:56:54Z")
I’m pretty sure the only discretion the scorer has in awarding a win to a pitcher other than the pitcher of record when the final lead was established is if that pitcher pitches “briefly and ineffectively” and a later pitcher pitches well in preserving the victory. I first learned this way back when Frank Funk came in to pitch for the Indians and gave up a grand slam before getting the team out. The Indians took back the lead in their next at bats and Funk didn’t get the win. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/102 "2025-06-17T21:59:58Z")
Something like that happened to the Cubs this season. Their closer at the time of the game, Ryan Pressly, came into the game with the Cubs leading 13-11 in a brutally ugly game that saw Arizona score 10 runs in the 8th inning. He was the most effective Chicago pitcher that day, and was given the win instead of a save. Story with more detail can be found [here](https://www.espn.com/mlb/recap?gameId=401695202). ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/103 "2025-06-17T22:09:26Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > He was the most effective Chicago pitcher that day, and was given the win instead of a save. That may validate what I posted, as the pitcher of record when the Cubs took the lead (Roberts) had given up a grand slam that allowed AZ to take the lead in the top of the 8th, before he recorded the final out of the inning. Roberts had indeed pitched “briefly and ineffectively”. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/104 "2025-06-18T02:05:02Z")
Rule 10.19 (c) 4 (4) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game. **EXCEPTION:** Do not credit a victory to a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when a succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain the lead. In such cases, credit the succeeding relief pitcher with the victory. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/105 "2025-06-18T13:17:19Z")
The Rockies have won three in a row, upping their record to 16-57, a .219 winning percentage. Meanwhile, the Yankees have lost five in a row and were shut out in the last three of those games. Aaron Judge is 3 for his last 24, but is still hitting .372. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/106 "2025-06-19T14:31:33Z")
I still don’t grasp how the Jays are 40-33 and just two games out of first and don’t believe they’re really that good. Fun to see them win though. Addison Barger is certainly impressing. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/107 "2025-06-19T21:00:27Z")
Red Sox vs Giants tomorrow which should be interesting given the trade. It’s the MLB TV free game of the day for tomorrow night ---
**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/108 "2025-06-19T21:28:33Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The Rockies have won three in a row, upping their record to 16-57, a .219 winning percentage. If they could play the Nats every day, they’d go to the World Series. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/109 "2025-06-19T21:30:32Z")
Jac Caglianone, KC’s top hitting prospect, has struggled since being called up a couple of weeks ago. But today he hit his first two MLB homers, as the Royals swept the Rangers in a 3-game series. The sweep came after KC lost all six games in a recent homestand. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/110 "2025-06-20T17:16:11Z")
Sammy Sosa returns to Wrigley today. > A Friday afternoon game against the non rival Mariners means the friendliest possible welcome back as it’ll be a ton of tourists and infrequent Cubs fans today ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/111 "2025-06-20T21:45:10Z")
A couple of interesting stats today > **[Mariners' Cal Raleigh hits 29th homer before All-Star break, most by a...](https://www.aol.com/mariners-cal-raleigh-hits-29th-202919069.html)** > > Raleigh surpassed Johnny Bench, who hit 28 homers before the All-Star break in 1970. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/112 "2025-06-20T22:35:19Z")
Angels manager Ron Washington stepping away indefinitely for health reasons > **[Ron Washington stepping away from Angels managing duties indefinitely due to...](https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/breaking-news/article/ron-washington-stepping-away-from-angels-managing-duties-indefinitely-due-to-health-concern-222654779.html)** > > Angels bench coach Ray Montgomery will manage the team Friday night against the Houston Astros, and moving forward. Angels have been interesting to watch so far this season, usually hanging around .500 ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/113 "2025-06-21T20:01:09Z")
It is a scorching hot day at Wrigley and the Cubs seem like they want to choke away a 9-1 lead against the Mariners. You can’t blow 9-1 leads and expect to get to the World Series > **[MLB Gameday live updates: Mariners at Cubs game on 06/21/2025 free](https://www.mlb.com/gameday/mariners-vs-cubs/2025/06/21/777419/live)** > > Follow MLB results with FREE live box scores, pitch-by-pitch strikezone info, and Statcast data for Mariners vs. Cubs at Wrigley Field ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/114 "2025-06-22T00:26:39Z")
Cubs did muddle through to win 10 - 7 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/115 "2025-06-22T01:59:06Z")
I always thought Washington was a good guy and I wish him well. My only complaint about him is his habit of holding up four fingers when Judge comes to bat. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/116 "2025-06-22T02:05:18Z")
In the Yankees/Orioles game today Clarke Schmidt threw 7 no hit innings. He was taken out at the end of the inning. He was already at his career high pitch count. The game ended as a 1 hitter. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/117 "2025-06-23T00:39:32Z")
Ohtani pitched an inning, **and** hit a home run and had 5 RBI. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/118 "2025-06-23T01:12:26Z")
Yankees had a great game today mostly because I was there. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/119 "2025-06-23T01:19:03Z")
One thing of note other than the Yankee win. For the O’s Adley Rutschman is on the 10 day IL. They called up Maverick Handley this weekend. Today he got injured in a collision at the plate. The O’s are getting a little thin at catcher. Yankee fans were happy that Gary Sanchez came in and contributed nothing but strikeouts. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/120 "2025-06-23T01:38:55Z")
Oh, and Chris Sale has been [placed on the IL for a fractured left rib cage](https://www.mlb.com/news/chris-sale-fractured-rib-cage). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079.md?page=7)