# MLB-June 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [June 1, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079 "2025-06-01T19:26:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/141 "2025-06-24T13:34:24Z")

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Here’s an enjoyable video recap on the seasons in the 80s if anyone is interested. There were some interesting choices for MVP back then too.

[Every MLB Season of the 1980s Explained in 30 Minutes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-caDYJnXCMk)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/142 "2025-06-24T15:03:36Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Generally, no. And Raleigh isn’t all that much better than average at catcher. He’s 20th in strike rate, 7th in framing, and is replacement level in blocking. He’s extremely slow getting rid of the ball (45th), and has only caught 7 steal attempts on 38 tries.

They say that he’s very good at handling the pitching staff and calling the game. I don’t think there are metrics for that, but if true, should count for something. He’s also a clubhouse leader, and that should factor into MVP consideration if the team does well.

I’m not saying he should win the AL MVP, but he’s having a hell of a year. Let’s revisit this in August.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/143 "2025-06-24T15:12:37Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’m not saying he should win the AL MVP, but he’s having a hell of a year.

Definitely. He hit home run #32 last night, placing him just two HRs short of his entire output for 2024. He’s also hitting .278, which is 50 points above his career average, and his bWAR is 4.4 already. Is he having an MVP-caliber season? I don’t know, but he’s definitely having a career year.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/144 "2025-06-24T15:12:51Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Ozzie Smith is widely considered to have been the best defensive shortstop of his generation, and on the short list of the best of all time. Smith _once_ finished in the top 10 in MVP voting: in 1987, he was in second place for the NL MVP, behind the Cubs’ Andre Dawson, who hit 49 home runs and batted in 137, for a last-place Cubs team; in that season, Ozzie hit .303 (the only time in his career he hit .300+), with 182 hits, for a Cardinals team that won the NL pennant, and on which Smith was likely the best player.

I just looked at the 1987 Cubs page on [baseball-reference.com](http://baseball-reference.com), and Andre Dawson didn’t even have the highest WAR on the team that year. Dawson’s WAR was only 4.0, while pitcher Rick Sutcliffe’s was 6.0.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/145 "2025-06-24T15:17:32Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> I just looked at the 1987 Cubs page on [baseball-reference.com](http://baseball-reference.com), and Andre Dawson didn’t even have the highest WAR on the team that year. Dawson’s WAR was only 4.0, while pitcher Rick Sutcliffe’s was 6.0.

That doesn’t surprise me a whole lot. That was the pre-sabermetric era, and Dawson, in his first year after leaving the Expos, was a big story, and did have a huge year on the classic “slugging” stats (HRs and RBIs).

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/146 "2025-06-24T15:20:12Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> They say that he’s very good at handling the pitching staff and calling the game. I don’t think there are metrics for that, but if true, should count for something.

Strike Rate is as close as you’re going to get for a metric for handling a pitching staff. And don’t get me wrong - I love Big Dumper, and I despise the boring-ass Yankees - but every manager in the league has high praise for how his catcher “handles the pitching staff”.

The only sour grapes I have is that I don’t have a single share of Raleigh in any of my fantasy leagues!

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/147 "2025-06-24T15:23:40Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> but every manager in the league has high praise for how his catcher “handles the pitching staff”.

You know, I think that’s right now that you mention it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/148 "2025-06-24T15:51:40Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I love Big Dumper, and I despise the boring-ass Yankees - but every manager in the league has high praise for how his catcher “handles the pitching staff”.

I wouldn’t put much stock in that either to be honest.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/149 "2025-06-24T16:55:13Z")

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The White Sox have signed pitcher Noah Syndergaard to a minor-league contract. A solid starter early in his career with the Mets, Syndergaard has struggled with injuries for years, and hasn’t pitched in the majors since 2023.

The Sox, meanwhile, would be the worst team in the majors if not for the colossally terrible Rockies, and apparently are hoping that the 32-year-old Syndergaard still has a little gas left in the tank.

> **[White Sox give minors deal to righty Syndergaard](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45574959/white-sox-give-minors-deal-former-ace-noah-syndergaard)**
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> Former All-Star right-hander Noah Syndergaard has a minor league deal with the White Sox.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/150 "2025-06-24T17:16:59Z")

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Well, it’s low-risk, high-reward for the White Sox. It makes sense, since they’re not out a bunch of money.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/151 "2025-06-25T23:06:55Z")

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Today’s Pirates/Brewers game pitted two young, hard-throwing starting pitchers against each other: Pittsburgh’s Paul Skenes (winner of last year’s NL Rookie of the Year Award) versus Milwaukee’s Jacob Misiorowski. Misiorowski came out on top, pitching five scoreless innings, while striking out eight; the Brewers batted around against Skenes in the fourth inning, and won the game, 4-2.

Misiorowski, who was called up from the minors earlier this month, is 3-0 in his first three MLB starts, with an ERA of 1.13. In 16 innings of work, he’s struck out 19, while giving up just three hits and seven walks.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/152 "2025-06-25T23:57:07Z")

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Diego Segui, the starting pitcher in the first game in Seattle Mariners history, has [died at 87](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45584932/diego-segui-starting-pitcher-mariners-first-game-dies). He also appeared in the first game played by the Seattle Pilots.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/153 "2025-06-26T00:35:16Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Diego Segui

Diego Segui was the starting pitcher (against Whitey Ford) in the second MLB game that I saw live. He was a rookie for the KC Athletics, pitching against the Yanks. He allowed home runs to Mickey Mantle, Tom Tresh, and Roger Maris, but the A’s battled back and scored a run in the bottom of the ninth to win the game 5-4. Ford pitched the entire game, allowing 16 hits.

I’m guessing nobody is terribly interested, but here’s the box score.

> **[New York Yankees vs Kansas City Athletics Box Score: August 18, 1962 |...](https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KC1/KC1196208181.shtml)**
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> Kansas City Athletics beat New York Yankees (5-4). Aug 18, 1962, Attendance: Not Given, Time of Game: 2:35. Visit Baseball-Reference.com for the complete box score, play-by-play, and win probability

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/154 "2025-06-26T03:46:32Z")

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It’s official. God (and the umps) hate the Rockies. While playing in a torrential downpour two runs come in on an infield pop up. There is no way they should have still been playing.

> **[Dodgers vs Rockies Suddenly Enter Delay on Wednesday](https://www.si.com/mlb/dodgers/news/dodgers-vs-rockies-suddenly-enter-delay-on-wednesday)**
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> Wednesday evening's game between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Colorado Rockies has been suspended due to a rain delay. As the Denver skies poured heavy rain

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/155 "2025-06-26T18:30:50Z")

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In the midst of the usual talk about Ohtani and Judge, the Mariners’ Raleigh is quietly having a monster season.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/156 "2025-06-26T19:22:23Z")

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I don’t know how quiet it is. MLB just put him ahead of Judge in the Hitter Power Rankings.

> **[Hitter Power Rankings get a rare change at the top](https://www.mlb.com/news/7th-hitter-power-rankings-of-2025)**
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> When we last checked in on the Hitter Power Rankings, we asked: “Can anyone dethrone Aaron Judge?”
> It seemed like the answer would be no. But baseball is full of surprises. Therefore, our latest top 10 features not only five new names, but also, for...

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/157 "2025-06-26T23:06:04Z")

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All Stars announced. Dodgers and Friends for the NL. Mookie Betts is having an awful year.

> **[Finalists to start 2025 All-Star Game set; voting resumes Monday](https://www.mlb.com/news/2025-all-star-game-ballot-finalists)**
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> Phase 1 of the 2025 MLB All-Star vote is complete, and the list of potential starting position players has narrowed, with two superstar sluggers officially punching their tickets.
> Nearly 11 million ballots were cast before the polls closed Thursday...

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/158 "2025-06-27T01:35:40Z")

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Former Tampa Bay Ray [Wander Franco](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45592342/rays-wander-franco-guilty-sexual-abuse-gets-suspended-sentence) was found guilty of sexual abuse for a relationship that he had with a 14 year old girl when he was 21 (for the record, he is currently 24, so this isn’t exactly ancient history).

His punishment is a two-year prison sentence. Suspended.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/159 "2025-06-27T02:17:29Z")

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Mets pitcher Griffin Canning went down with an apparent Achilles injury. Watching the play it’s a wonder that we all don’t rupture our Achilles daily. It barely looks like anything happened.

> **[Griffin Canning injury: Mets starter leaves game early vs. Braves, team fears...](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/griffin-canning-injury-mets-starter-leaves-game-early-vs-braves-team-fears-achilles-injury/)**
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> Canning had to be helped off the field Thursday night

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2025/1019079/160 "2025-06-27T02:50:49Z")

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If you happen to pause the video at the exact right (which is to say, if you’re squeamish, wrong) place, you can see his leg extended at an extreme angle and the foot slightly rotated in relation to the leg. I’d assume his spikes caught at just the wrong time while he was trying to move his body, and then there it goes.

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