# MLB - June

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 1, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767 "2014-06-01T13:51:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/1 "2014-06-01T13:51:37Z")

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Old thread [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=722331).

Giants can’t seem to lose, Dodgers can’t seem to get a decent streak going, Arizona is thinking of switching to AA ball. Such is life in the NLWest at the start of June.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/2 "2014-06-02T17:04:54Z")

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Damn. On Sunday, Mariners’ rookie pitcher Roenis Elias, who had never pitched above AA ball before making the team out of spring training, out-duelled reigning AL Cy Young winner, Max Scherzer, holding the Tigers to just 3 hits in a complete-game, 4-0 Mariners win.

This kid is great.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/3 "2014-06-02T17:08:54Z")

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On the same day Rubby De La Rosa (who had some cameos with the Dodgers but is still legally a rookie) looked as good as any Red Sox pitcher has recently. Buchholz and his fragile psyche can take all the time they need coming back.

Brock Holt, wherever the hell he came from, had 4 doubles in 4 AB’s (plus a walk) - must be a record, right? Good to see two more guys get their first MLB hits yesterday too, even if they’re just in for a brief visit.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/4 "2014-06-03T03:02:41Z")

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Aaaand the Mariners kick the Yankees’ ass, 10-2, helped along by Kyle Seager’s FOUR extra-base hits: a HR, two triples, and a double.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/5 "2014-06-03T12:14:42Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Aaaand the Mariners kick the Yankees’ ass, 10-2, helped along by Kyle Seager’s FOUR extra-base hits: a HR, two triples, and a double.

Can he count that as hitting for the cycle?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/6 "2014-06-03T12:38:09Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Can he count that as hitting for the cycle?

He beat the Yankees. He can count it as walking on water!

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/7 "2014-06-03T13:32:31Z")

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Cardinals still haven’t scored this month. Have only had one runner to second base, I think.

And yet, somehow, with zero offense to speak of and only 2 games over .500, if the season ended today they would get the second wild card? Odd.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/8 "2014-06-03T13:33:47Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Can he count that as hitting for the cycle?

Could they change the scoring on one of those triples to a single with a two-base error?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/9 "2014-06-03T13:36:13Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Could they change the scoring on one of those triples to a single with a two-base error?

It actually sounds like one of those was similar. Was one of the triples that odd play by Jeter where he thought the ball was foul?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/10 "2014-06-03T21:12:00Z")

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Brandon Workman gets six games for \*not \*hitting Longoria, and Mike Carp goes on the DL with a broken bone in the foot he got hit in.

Meanwhile David Price and Joe Maddon walk the streets as free men. Ain’t no justice, man, no justice.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/11 "2014-06-03T21:39:17Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> It actually sounds like one of those was similar. Was one of the triples that odd play by Jeter where he thought the ball was foul?

Sounds like. From [here](http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_02_seamlb_nyamlb_1&mode=recap_away&c_id=sea):

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> Seager caught two breaks for his second triple when Brett Gardner couldn’t make a sliding catch on a blooper to shallow left. It trickled to the wall as Derek Jeter, unaware third-base umpire Brian Gorman ruled the ball fair, slowly jogged to pick it up. Seager coasted into third and later scored on a Dustin Ackley fielder’s choice to Brian Roberts at second.
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> “I thought it was foul because I was in foul territory running after it,” Jeter said. “At first, I almost caught it when it deflected off [Gardner]. I sort of swiped at it. I almost got it. If I had swiped at it and hit it out to center field, we would’ve been in a lot of trouble, too.”

I also like this bit about the Mariners’ improved offense:

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> Last year, Felix Hernandez had to be nearly perfect if he wanted to earn a win. In games he pitched, the Mariners’ offense averaged just 3.7 runs behind him. One bad inning usually cost him a victory.
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> But 2014 has been different. Entering Monday night’s game, the Mariners have supplied arguably the best righty in baseball with an average of 5.3 runs in games he starts. The blemishes he makes on the hill have no longer felt irredeemable.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/12 "2014-06-04T02:22:08Z")

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Mariners come from behind, down 4-0, to win 7-5 against Atlanta. Four wins in a row!

I don’t expect the M’s to make the playoffs; I’ll just be happy if they finish above .500.

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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/13 "2014-06-04T02:53:25Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Mariners come from behind, down 4-0, to win 7-5 against Atlanta. Four wins in a row!
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> I don’t expect the M’s to make the playoffs; I’ll just be happy if they finish above .500.

I’ll be happy if they win two more against the Braves, especially if the Nationals also win two more against the Phillies.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/14 "2014-06-04T03:35:35Z")

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Looks like Joe Nathan decided this was the perfect time for his career to shit the bed.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/15 "2014-06-04T04:42:58Z")

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The Reds seem to own The Freak. He should have never let go of the goth mullet.

Seriously though, this next few weeks is it for the Redleggers. Either get better or (God forbid) get worse. I don’t wish to see a repeat of this season or last season, and since the Reds did absolutely NOTHING to get better from last year to this one, and with injuries still plaguing them with Votto and Latos, they have to start putting up or shutting up NOW.

The prospect cupboard is bare. Latos, Cueto, Leake and Simon are ALL free agents after next year. There’s no way the Reds can sign them all, and tough decisions will have to be made.

That said, if they can beat up on the team with the best record in MLB and get on a bit of a roll, then perhaps they can make some noise.

Walt Jocketty is seriously overrated as a player acquisition guy with the Reds I must say.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/16 "2014-06-04T16:17:47Z")

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Jonathan Singleton had an eventful 24 hours:

Called up to the major leagues  
Signs a $10 million, 5-year contract (I don’t know that I like that for the Astros, don’t think he’s quite that much of a can’t-miss)  
2nd inning strikeout  
3rd inning error  
3rd inning RBI walk (!)  
5th inning strikeout  
8th inning error

8th inning home run.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/17 "2014-06-04T16:33:40Z")

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This whole “unwritten rules” thing is getting a bit crazy lately.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/18 "2014-06-04T18:30:19Z")

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Ryan Zimmerman is back from the DL for the Nats, playing LF for the first time in his career, he goes 2 for 4 against the lowly Phillies.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/19 "2014-06-05T01:31:26Z")

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Don Zimmer has died. R.I.P. One of the great baseball characters of all time.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june/689767/20 "2014-06-05T02:09:12Z")

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> [@P-man](#):
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> I’ll be happy if they win two more against the Braves, especially if the Nationals also win two more against the Phillies.

Well, they did it again today, winning 2-0 behind Iwakuma’s pitching.

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