# MLB: May 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 1, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379 "2011-05-01T13:14:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/221 "2011-05-26T02:48:20Z")
The Indians/Red Sox game today was just a joke. I LOLed 🙂 Hopefully my guys show back up on Friday after a couple days rest. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/222 "2011-05-26T04:14:49Z")
Reds at Phillies is now going to the 16th inning, still 4-4. Roy Halladay pitched seven innings, and the Phils have gone through seven more pitchers since then! ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/223 "2011-05-26T05:06:11Z")
Into the 19th inning now, and well past the all-time franchise record. Wilson Valdez is pitching. ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/224 "2011-05-26T05:22:50Z")
Raul Ibanez with the game winning sacrifice with the bases loaded in the 19th. ---
**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/225 "2011-05-26T05:53:00Z")
Your winning pitcher - Wilson Valdez First position player to get a win since Brett Mayne in 2000. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/226 "2011-05-26T13:36:09Z")
Marlins - Giants…Marlins score 3 in the top of the 9th to bust it open 6-2; the Giants score 4 in the bottom of the 9th. But in the 12th the Marlins score on a sac fly. But the bad news from SF: Buster Posey hurt on the play. Looks bad. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/227 "2011-05-26T14:10:25Z")
> [@DxZero](#): > > Your winning pitcher - Wilson Valdez > > First position player to get a win since Brett Mayne in 2000. And on the other end of the spectrum, Jo-Jo Reyes started his 28th consecutive game without a win. A streak that started June 13 of…2008! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/228 "2011-05-26T14:27:01Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > And on the other end of the spectrum, Jo-Jo Reyes started his 28th consecutive game without a win. A streak that started June 13 of…2008! Yikes. That’s sort of impressive in its own way. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/229 "2011-05-26T14:39:22Z")
Brandon Phillips lost the Reds that game in the 12th. With one out, Phillips was hit by a wild pitch, then advanced to second when Romero walked Votto. Then Romero got behind Rolen 3-0 and Phillips took this ridiculously huge lead (was even talking to the shortstop!) and got himself picked off. Then Romero walked Rolen and Bruce, but Hernandez grounded out to end the inning with the bases fucking loaded. So, 4 walks issued, no runs scored thanks to brain fart. Damn! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/230 "2011-05-26T15:24:52Z")
More rainouts this year than all of last season. There is more rain on the horizon. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/231 "2011-05-26T15:32:56Z")
Boston is beginning a 3 game series in Detroit. It is unlikely they will get any of it in. It has been raining over and over. Thunderstorms are expected for the next 3 days. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/232 "2011-05-26T15:59:26Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > But the bad news from SF: Buster Posey hurt on the play. Looks bad. Broken leg, torn ligaments. Buster. ☚ ☚ ☚ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/233 "2011-05-26T16:14:27Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > Broken leg, torn ligaments. > > Buster. ☹ ☹ ☹ Shit, that sucks. Posey’s agent is already lobbying MLB to make new rules on collisions at the plate. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/234 "2011-05-26T16:26:17Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Posey’s agent is already lobbying MLB to make new rules on collisions at the plate. He wants a new rule that runners can’t hit catchers? Or a return to the old rule that catchers couldn’t block the plate? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/235 "2011-05-26T16:31:50Z")
I don’t think he’s proposing anything specific. He wants MLB to look at the situation and do something to protect catchers from runners slamming into them at the plate. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/236 "2011-05-26T16:40:06Z")
Which basically means catchers should stand out of the baseline until they have the ball, and runners should slide rather than plow them over. If catchers didn’t attempt to block the plate before they had the ball these things wouldn’t happen - they certainly don’t happen at any other base. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/237 "2011-05-26T16:59:06Z")
I don’t know. The development of the modern relationship between catchers and incoming runners is generally seen as an asset to the game. Fans _like_ the drama of collisions and the idea that the catcher must physically defend the plate. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/238 "2011-05-26T17:05:13Z")
[http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-07-10/sports/17692500\_1\_time-hits-leader-ray-fosse-collision](http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-07-10/sports/17692500_1_time-hits-leader-ray-fosse-collision) Sometimes it is wrong to crash the catcher. Rose ended Fosse’s career in the All Star game. What a waste. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/239 "2011-05-26T17:12:22Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Which basically means catchers should stand out of the baseline until they have the ball, and runners should slide rather than plow them over. If catchers didn’t attempt to block the plate before they had the ball these things wouldn’t happen - they certainly don’t happen at any other base. In this case the ball had arrived before the impact. There wasn’t really anywhere else Posey could have been. You can argue that runners should simply be obligated to avoid hitting catchers, but that would be changing the nature and anticipation of plays at the plate and reducing overall runs scored. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/240 "2011-05-26T17:21:33Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > In this case the ball had arrived before the impact. There wasn’t really anywhere else Posey could have been. You can argue that runners should simply be obligated to avoid hitting catchers, but that would be changing the nature and anticipation of plays at the plate and reducing overall runs scored. Hmmm… I only read a description of the play and it sounded like he set up in the base-path before the ball arrived (as is typical in these plays). Then he never had full control of the ball during or after the collision. I’ll have to watch the video when I get home to verify this. My position would be that if protecting the catcher is more important than the “fan interest” of watching people get injured, catchers must stand outside of the basepath until they receive the ball, just like every other position player must. With a clear path to the plate the runner will slide in, attempting to avoid the tag. Again, just like at every other base. Once the catcher has the ball he can do a sweep tag or, if he has enough time, move in front of the plate at which point the runner can’t bowl him over (just like the runner can’t bowl over a shortstop executing a run-down). In fact, a strict reading of the rules seems to already mandate this behavior. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379.md?page=13)