# MLB: May 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 1, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379 "2011-05-01T13:14:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/41 "2011-05-08T22:16:59Z")

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Nice to see Jeter have a good game again. 4 for 6 with 2 HRand a stolen base. Granderson continues his hot hitting too. Good win against a good team.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/42 "2011-05-08T22:34:57Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Nice to see Jeter have a good game again. 4 for 6 with 2 HRand a stolen base. Granderson continues his hot hitting too. Good win against a good team.

He’s hoping this game will make up for his next 9 horrible games, until Joe benches him for being washed up again. He’ll have another good game when he starts after that, then 9 more horrible games, rinse, repeat for the rest of the season.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/43 "2011-05-09T16:40:58Z")

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Granderson leading the American League in home runs. Who would have imagined that?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/44 "2011-05-09T18:31:00Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> He’s hoping this game will make up for his next 9 horrible games, until Joe benches him for being washed up again. He’ll have another good game when he starts after that, then 9 more horrible games, rinse, repeat for the rest of the season.

Keep dreaming.

The Yanks tried early to give the game away with terrible defense.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/45 "2011-05-09T18:47:36Z")

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2 HRs in a 12-5 rout against David Bush? If it were A-Rod, the New York media would be complaining that he saves his HRs for meaningless situations.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/46 "2011-05-09T19:06:46Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> 2 HRs in a 12-5 rout against David Bush? If it were A-Rod, the New York media would be complaining that he saves his HRs for meaningless situations.

Except the 2 HRs came long before the rout and one was against Rhodes. So no, not meaningless at all.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/47 "2011-05-09T20:03:26Z")

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I think **Munch** ’s comment was more about the New York media, and about attitudes to A-Rod and Jeter in New York, than about the actual game.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/48 "2011-05-09T20:10:05Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Except the 2 HRs came long before the rout and one was against Rhodes. So no, not meaningless at all.

We’re talking about the same 41 year old, 4.06 career ERA Arthur Rhodes here, right? But yeah - I was talking about the standard New York attitude towards A-Rod and Jeter, and how polar opposite the two receive attention.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/49 "2011-05-10T00:07:35Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think **Munch** ’s comment was more about the New York media, and about attitudes to A-Rod and Jeter in New York, than about the actual game.

> [@Munch](#):
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> We’re talking about the same 41 year old, 4.06 career ERA Arthur Rhodes here, right? But yeah - I was talking about the standard New York attitude towards A-Rod and Jeter, and how polar opposite the two receive attention.

I understand and I am saying that a lot of A-Rods offense really was in garbage time back when the complaints were being made. Jeter’s were big yesterday. The game was not a blowout until after he had done his hitting. In general the NY press stopped hammering A-Rod at least 3 years ago and so this is some old and stale stuff anyway.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/50 "2011-05-10T00:39:03Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I understand and I am saying that a lot of A-Rods offense really was in garbage time back when the complaints were being made.

Wow! You really believe that?

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> In general the NY press stopped hammering A-Rod at least 3 years ago and so this is some old and stale stuff anyway.

Well, let’s exclude the last three years then, shall we?

A-Rod has been in New York for 7 full seasons before this year, so we’ll look at his first 4 seasons, the time when you say that the NY press was hammering him, and when “a lot of [his] offense really was in garbage time.”

This is the guy who, in two out of his first four years in New York, was pretty much personally responsible for the Yankees making the playoffs, and who won the AL MVP in those two years. A guy who, in his first four years as a Yankee, had an OPS+ equal to Derek Jeter’s best year ever.

Here’s A-Rod’s line for those terrible, wasted, “garbage time” offensive years: .303/.403/.573, 173 HR, 492 R, 513 RBI

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/51 "2011-05-10T00:51:25Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Here’s A-Rod’s line for those terrible, wasted, “garbage time” offensive years: .303/.403/.573, 173 HR, 492 R, 513 RBI

Boy, “offensive” is right! P U! Amiright?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/52 "2011-05-10T02:22:24Z")

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[No more Milton Bradley](http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/09/milton-bradley-is-making-12-million-this-year/)

I think he’s done in MLB.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/53 "2011-05-10T05:28:42Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> [No more Milton Bradley](http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/09/milton-bradley-is-making-12-million-this-year/)
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> I think he’s done in MLB.

I thought that last year too, but he came back. They sent Langerhans away too. The M’s kept Saunders, who can field well, but can’t hit. I hope Gutierrez comes back soon.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/54 "2011-05-11T04:28:49Z")

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Nice pitching duel going on in San Francisco.

Both starting pitchers (Lincecum and Kennedy) made it through the 8th, and it’s still 0-0 going into the 9th.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/55 "2011-05-13T01:34:34Z")

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Where have all the baseball fans gone? This thread has been very quiet.

Watching another pitchers’ duel today, this one between Seattle and Baltimore. Of course, given the poor offense of those two teams, the low score isn’t too much of a surprise. The pitchers are being helped today by a strike zone that is, as Jim Palmer said a few minutes ago, the size of Texas.

Both starting pitchers went 9 innings without a decision, and it’s still 0-0 in the bottom of the 11th.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/56 "2011-05-13T02:01:01Z")

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Woohoo!

Orioles went down 1-0 in the top of the 12th, but walked off with a 2-1 win on a 2-RBI single in the bottom of the inning.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/57 "2011-05-13T02:01:48Z")

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I like this “Turn Back the Clock” series in NY this week. Originally I thought that 1978 seemed like a weird year to revisit, but watching the Royals pound on the Yankees is really enjoyable (and yes, I know the Yankees beat the Royals in the playoffs that year - I’m not delusional). (Yeah - yesterday’s game was bizarre. No reason the Royals should beat the Yanks 4-3 on 4 hits v. 12.) Love seeing Hosmer start strong.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/58 "2011-05-13T02:22:09Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Where have all the baseball fans gone? This thread has been very quiet.

I’ve been really busy playing baseball. 🙂

We have the Small One in T-ball now as well, which is… quite something.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/59 "2011-05-13T02:33:41Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> [No more Milton Bradley](http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/09/milton-bradley-is-making-12-million-this-year/)
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> I think he’s done in MLB.

Never mind that. Did anyone else know that Bobby Bonilla is getting $1.2 million a year from the Mets through 2035? That’s mind boggling.

> **[MLB](https://www.nbcsports.com/mlb)**
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> Find all the latest MLB news, live coverage, videos, highlights, stats, predictions, and results right here on NBC Sports.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2011/580379/60 "2011-05-13T02:41:30Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Woohoo!
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> Orioles went down 1-0 in the top of the 12th, but walked off with a 2-1 win on a 2-RBI single in the bottom of the inning.

That’s the second blown save by Brandon League in extras. Those are his only blown saves. David Aardsma ain’t coming back any time soon. Plus, he lost a game in the 10th after pitching a perfect 9th to keep the score tied. All in the last week. The M’s were within one game of .500, but they’ve lost five straight since.

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