# MLB: May 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 1, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514 "2012-05-01T14:36:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/141 "2012-05-12T17:41:33Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I’ve seen it work twice, and both times it was Dave Stieb.
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> I don’t particularly care if they get rid of it or not but I admit that changing it would make the rules consistent. The balk rule allowing this type of motion but disallowing a hundred other arbitrary things is nonsensical.

I never understood why you could step toward 2nd or 3rd w/out throwing the ball (unlike 1st and home where you have to throw the ball if you step in that direction). Just change that rule (you have to throw in whichever direction you step) and you’ll fix this ‘problem’.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/142 "2012-05-12T18:21:46Z")

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So Castro is up with a man on 1st and 3rd. He grounds into a double play, runner on 3rd scores. No throwing error or anything, but Castro is not credited with an RBI. Why not?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/143 "2012-05-12T18:34:30Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> So Castro is up with a man on 1st and 3rd. He grounds into a double play, runner on 3rd scores. No throwing error or anything, but Castro is not credited with an RBI. Why not?

Well, because the rule says so.

As to why the rules says that, the underlying assumption is that the run scored as the result of the fielder choosing to throw out Castro for a second out, rather than hold the runner. That is, the run scored on a fielding play that occurred subsequent to, and distinct from, the play on the batted ball; such runs are never counted as RBIs.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/144 "2012-05-12T18:52:27Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Josh Hamilton is unstoppable at the moment. He hit another two homers against the Angels yesterday, making him 11-21 with 8 HR over his last 5 games.

Just hit another moonshot! \<Dan Patrick\> He is, dare I say it, en fuego. \<Dan Patrick\>

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/145 "2012-05-12T19:17:19Z")

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Ok, Hamilton’s production has officially gotten silly.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/146 "2012-05-12T21:50:05Z")

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Guerrero is a hall of famer as far as I’m concerned. The numbers speak for themselves, and for me it always helps a guy’s case if he has something extra: in Vlad’s case, he earned a reputation as perhaps the most omnivorous hitter who ever lived. He would swing at anything and often he’d hit it very, very hard even if it was nowhere near a strike.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/147 "2012-05-13T02:04:02Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Guerrero is a hall of famer as far as I’m concerned. The numbers speak for themselves, and for me it always helps a guy’s case if he has something extra: in Vlad’s case, he earned a reputation as perhaps the most omnivorous hitter who ever lived. He would swing at anything and often he’d hit it very, very hard even if it was nowhere near a strike.

I can’t remember where I read it, but there was a story about when Guerrero first came up with the Expos, and during a team meeting they were asking a Dominican guy who’s seen him how to pitch him. It went like

“Okay, so should be jam him inside?”  
“No, you can’t do that, he can get around on anything.”  
“Okay, so we’ll pitch him outside.”  
“No, no, you can’t do that, he’s got these weird long arms, he can reach that.”  
“Okay, we’ll pitch him low.”  
“Oh, you sure don’t want to do that, he’ll golf it over the fence…”  
As to Josh Hamilton, here’s how hot he is; he hit a home run today, and overall his stats are now \*a bit worse \*than they were before the game.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/148 "2012-05-13T02:35:08Z")

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Here’s what i said about Baltimore near the end of last month:

> [@MLB: March/April 2012](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-march-april-2012/617055/343):
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> Their next 15 games are against the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, and Rays. If they can play .500 or better over that stretch, i’ll begin to believe that they might be more than a flash in the pan, but my prediction is that they won’t be at the top of the division by the middle of May.

Well, they have now played 12 of those 15 games, and have gone 8-4 over that stretch. Three of those four losses came against the Rangers; the Orioles are 7-1 against the Yankees, Red Sox, and Rays over the past couple of weeks.

At 22-12 overall, they’re 3 games over their X W-L, so they’ve been a little bit lucky, but even at 19-15 they would be doing far better than i expected before the season started.

Keeping my fingers crossed that they can keep it up.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/149 "2012-05-13T03:49:16Z")

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Jose Bautista has played ten games in his career at Minnesota’s Target Field. In those ten games, he has hit ten home runs.

Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau have played over 230 games, between them, at Target Field, and have combined to hit seven home runs.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/150 "2012-05-13T12:42:31Z")

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Nice little article [here](http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/05/12/chipper-moved-by-ovation-from-cardinals-fans/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_braves_blog). Classy move by Cardinals’ fans. And Stan Musial and his wife were married for 72 years!

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/151 "2012-05-13T14:29:53Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Nice little article [here](http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/05/12/chipper-moved-by-ovation-from-cardinals-fans/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_braves_blog). Classy move by Cardinals’ fans. And Stan Musial and his wife were married for 72 years!

[Video](http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=21338511&topic_id=9780550&c_id=mlb) of the ovation.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/152 "2012-05-13T18:23:52Z")

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Congrats to Kevin Millwood who got his 2,000th K today. Andy Pettitte is pitching in the same game in a battle of ancient warhorses.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/153 "2012-05-14T00:16:47Z")

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Chipper’s ovation doesn’t surprise me in the least. As he said, St. Louis has the best baseball fans.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/154 "2012-05-14T00:18:25Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> As he said, St. Louis has the best baseball fans.

Just ask anyone in St. Louis.

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**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/155 "2012-05-14T00:40:46Z")

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Very classy move by the Cards’ fans. I was happier with the sweep, however 🙂

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**Author:** ![cncdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@cncdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cncdad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/156 "2012-05-14T01:47:25Z")

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Votto 3 HRs with a a walk off grand slam. JV is one heck of a hitter. If the Reds just had other batters around him the could really be dominant.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/157 "2012-05-14T02:16:27Z")

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Huh. Three consecutive 6-2 games between the Mariners and Yankees - the first two in favor of New York, the third in Seattle’s.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/158 "2012-05-14T03:17:44Z")

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> [@cncdad](#):
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> Votto 3 HRs with a a walk off grand slam. JV is one heck of a hitter. If the Reds just had other batters around him the could really be dominant.

Jay Bruce has been better than Votto so far this season, at least until today.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/159 "2012-05-14T04:08:16Z")

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The Dodgers have managed to get wins the last four games without much of any contribution offensively from Matt Kemp. Looks like they’re going to have to keep figuring that out, as Kemp finally succumbed to his hamstring issue today. The Dodgers are awaiting the results of an MRI he’ll have tomorrow to see how long he’ll be out. If he winds up on the DL, he’ll be the 3rd Dodger already this season to go down with a hamstring injury, following Juan Rivera and Jerry Hairston.

I’m starting to wonder what they’re putting in the water in that clubhouse.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-may-2012/620514/160 "2012-05-14T13:41:05Z")

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Will Josh Hamilton ever level off? Jeez that guy is on a _tear_!

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