# MLB: October 2017 — Welcome to the Postseason **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 1, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735 "2017-10-01T15:14:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/621 "2017-10-31T23:49:28Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Ummm…I’m as big a Giants fan as anyone around here, and I’d take Bumgarner in a “win or die” game without a moment’s hesitation, but he hasn’t been quite as god-like as you say… > > From [Baseball Reference](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bumgama01.shtml): > > ```auto > > Year Series W L ERA IP H R ER > 2010 NLDS 1 0 3.00 6.0 6 2 2 > 2010 NLCS 0 0 4.05 6.2 9 3 3 > 2010 WS 1 0 0.00 8.0 3 0 0 > 2012 NLDS 0 1 8.31 4.1 7 4 4 > 2012 NLCS 0 1 14.73 3.2 8 6 6 > 2012 WS 1 0 0.00 7.0 2 0 0 > 2014 NLWC 1 0 0.00 9.0 4 0 0 > 2014 NLDS 0 1 2.57 7.0 6 3 2 > 2014 NLCS 1 0 1.72 15.2 9 3 3 > 2014 WS 2 0 0.43 21.0 9 1 1 > 2016 NLWC 1 0 0.00 9.0 4 0 0 > 2016 NLDS 0 0 5.40 5.0 7 3 3 > 2 NLWC 2 0 0.00 18.0 8 0 0 > 4 NLDS 1 2 4.43 22.1 26 12 11 > 3 NLCS 1 1 4.15 26.0 26 12 12 > 3 WS 4 0 0.25 36.0 14 1 1 > > All Postseason 8 3 2.11 102.1 74 25 24 > > ``` > > Still…12 series, 16 G, 102.1 IP, 8-3 record, 2.11 ERA, 24 ER is nothing to shake a stick at. OMG how could I have misread that? > **[Madison Bumgarner Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More |...](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bumgama01.shtml)** > > Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Madison Bumgarner. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com Thanks for the correction! ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/622 "2017-11-01T00:50:58Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Bullitt: > > Impossible. Salvador Perez hit a home run off of him in Game 1 of the 2014 World Series. The only way a home run isn’t an earned run is if the batter would not have come to the plate if not for a prior error, and his home run was a solo shot, so that can’t have been the situation. It could’ve been the situation (it wasn’t, but it was possible). Consider: Batter 1; out Batter 2: out Batter 3: reaches on error Batter 4: homers Batter 5 (Perez): homers Unearned run. Well, all three are unearned, but more specifically Perez’s home run is unearned. But you were close: a solo homer can’t be unearned if it is the only run of the inning (which I believe Perez’s was)–but it’s the “only run” part that’s determinative. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/623 "2017-11-01T01:10:54Z")
Yeah but either way I misread that page. It was early, 0400-0430 this morning. I must not have been awake. The words you just read were of me trying to make excuses. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/624 "2017-11-01T01:16:21Z")
Y’know, one nice thing of this series is NOT seeing a guy sitting behind home plate wearing a Marlins jersey. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/625 "2017-11-01T01:17:55Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Y’know, one nice thing of this series is NOT seeing a guy sitting behind home plate wearing a Marlins jersey. Not sure if I’m being whooshed, but he’s definitely there. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/626 "2017-11-01T01:39:06Z")
I’m definitely a fan of the tight low scoring game…I really enjoy the tension of a 1-0 game and have no problem seeing good pitching beat good hitting. Like a couple of others upstairs I would agree that the 1991 Series is the gold standard where excitement is concerned–the best WS of my time, and the first one I remember was 1968, so that’s a lot to choose from. That being said, I thought Sunday’s game was terrific too. And if all the games I’ve seen in person the one that stands out the most was an extra inning affair that ended 18-16. I think there’s room for both. (I do find the language we use to describe the two types of games to be illuminating. The 1-0 game is often seen as an example of the phrase I used (good pitching beats good hitting) but I’ve never heard a 25-run slugfest described in the reverse terms (good hitting beats good pitching)–instead it’s Good hitting clobbers lousy pitching. Funny how that works.) ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/627 "2017-11-01T01:40:58Z")
“Verlander has shown no signs of wiltering.” John Smoltz, engaged in the time-honored color-guy practice of mangling the English language. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/628 "2017-11-01T01:46:38Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > “Verlander has shown no signs of wiltering.” > > John Smoltz, engaged in the time-honored color-guy practice of mangling the English language. I’m watching the international broadcast (I think it’s Buck Martinez and some other guy) and one of them made a reference to “hall of fame” catcher Thurman Munson. Speaking of Verlander, he really is the X factor of this postseason. You gotta figure that if Boston, Cleveland or New York had made that deadline deal they would be in the series against L.A… ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/629 "2017-11-01T01:47:47Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > Not sure if I’m being whooshed, but he’s definitely there. Not a whoosh… the guy in the upper left of the TV screen? That might be a Marlins jersey. I’m used to seeing the guy in the 1st or 2nd row, and centered. Obvious. That guy is in row 5 or 6, it looks like, and way off to the left. I thought he was wearing an Astros jersey. It might be Marlins. No, not a whoosh. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/630 "2017-11-01T01:55:54Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Not a whoosh… the guy in the upper left of the TV screen? That might be a Marlins jersey. I’m used to seeing the guy in the 1st or 2nd row, and centered. Obvious. That guy is in row 5 or 6, it looks like, and way off to the left. I thought he was wearing an Astros jersey. It might be Marlins. > > No, not a whoosh. I saw him standing up just before the game started, and I’m fairly certain that’s a Marlins jersey, but I can’t say with 100% certainty now. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/631 "2017-11-01T02:02:19Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > “Verlander has shown no signs of wiltering.” > > John Smoltz, engaged in the time-honored color-guy practice of mangling the English language. I actually have been liking Smoltz’s commentary. It’s Buck I can do without. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/632 "2017-11-01T02:20:16Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > I actually have been liking Smoltz’s commentary. It’s Buck I can do without. Yep, this. I need Buck to shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/633 "2017-11-01T02:40:43Z")
Really. Hey YOU, shut the Buck up! ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/634 "2017-11-01T03:00:16Z")
OK, so that homer just made me very happy. But why in the fuck would we be trying to get six outs from Kenley Jansen YET AGAIN?!? Have we learned nothing?!?! ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/635 "2017-11-01T03:09:38Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Speaking of Verlander, he really is the X factor of this postseason. You gotta figure that if Boston, Cleveland or New York had made that deadline deal they would be in the series against L.A… I don’t think Clevelnd’s getting Verlander would have made much of a difference except for not having to face him if they met Houston. Pitching wasn’t their problem. Kluber didn’t pitch like he did during the season, but I’m not starting Verlander over him in any case. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/636 "2017-11-01T03:20:09Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > OK, so that homer just made me very happy. But why in the fuck would we be trying to get six outs from Kenley Jansen YET AGAIN?!? Have we learned nothing?!?! Surprised here, too. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/637 "2017-11-01T03:30:25Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > OK, so that homer just made me very happy. But why in the fuck would we be trying to get six outs from Kenley Jansen YET AGAIN?!? Have we learned nothing?!?! I sure hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/638 "2017-11-01T03:36:38Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I sure hope not. I laughed at your taunt despite being in a precariously fragile state. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/639 "2017-11-01T03:38:18Z")
Well, Jansen threw only a few pitches in the 8th. But he sat a long time, too. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735/640 "2017-11-01T03:43:41Z")
Well, that’s it. Congrats to the Dodgers for this win. _ **Game 7, here we come!** _ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-october-2017-welcome-to-the-postseason/797735.md?page=33)