# MLB Offseason Thread 2024-2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [November 1, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526 "2024-11-01T01:39:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/181 "2024-12-14T19:59:42Z")
Feel free! Is the person you’re arguing with a diehard Cubs fan who is vocal about their hate for the DH and occasionally mentions that they never pay attention the AL? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/182 "2024-12-14T21:29:45Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Is the person you’re arguing with a diehard Cubs fan who is vocal about their hate for the DH and occasionally mentions that they never pay attention the AL? Swap out the Cubs for the Dodgers and I’d feel seen! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/183 "2024-12-14T22:38:57Z")
No, but they’re one of the typical “my team could field a rotation of 5 Nolan Ryans, and I’d still bitch that every game wasn’t a no-hitter” type of fans that get extremely liberal when it comes to other people’s wallets, and think that the “Cubs need to spend $400 million a year and have every single prospect in the game, no matter how unproven, and still will find something to bitch about” types. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/184 "2024-12-14T23:56:26Z")
Oh, and here was his response: “sure. For a deadline deal to get the player you need to get over the hump and contend for a WS. A non-playoff team making that trade while still having other holes in the roster? Silly without an extension (which is not going to happen).” ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/185 "2024-12-15T01:24:28Z")
Ha. I mean, I get it. Hoyer didn’t do much of anything last year to engender any level of real trust amongst the Cubs faithful. But if he thinks this trade is a good deadline deal you do in August with 60 games to go, why wouldn’t it be an amazing deal to do in the Winter with an entire season in front of you without spending anything extra?! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/186 "2024-12-15T01:32:30Z")
Because he’s an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/187 "2024-12-15T01:46:20Z")
What a miserable way to spend your fandom. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/188 "2024-12-16T16:32:20Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > There’s not a chance the Cubs overpaid for Kyle Tucker. He is an absolutely amazing baseball player. He has gold glove defense paired with tremendous plate,l discipline, paired with some real raw power. If their intention is to win it all in 2025, fantastic trade. Tucker is a sensational player who makes teams win. Why not go for it? 1. A flag flies forever, 2. “Prospects” are often busts. USUALLY busts. We all remember stuff like the Red Sox giving away Jeff Bagwell but most of the time the prospect hauls don’t amount to much. Tucker is only 27 and could add seven wins to the Cubs easy, and 3. The Cubs are already a talented team in a division absolutely ripe for the picking. There is no SMARTER time to blow your prospects to acquire an MVP calibre player with World Series credentials. Like, when the fuck else are you going to make a move? P\erfect trade. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/189 "2024-12-17T21:18:49Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > With the White Sox sending Crochet to Boston Incidentally, I wanted to comment on this. Garret Crochet is only 25, and he’s not a free agent for two more years. He is precisely the kind of player the White Sox should be KEEPING. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/190 "2024-12-17T21:57:20Z")
[Cody Bellinger to the Yankees](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43028167/sources-cubs-trade-cody-bellinger-yankees) for Cody Poteet. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/191 "2024-12-17T22:16:44Z")
C’mon, couldn’t they make this a three way trade with the Rangers and get Cody Bradford involved? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/192 "2024-12-17T23:23:11Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [Cody Bellinger to the Yankees](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43028167/sources-cubs-trade-cody-bellinger-yankees) for Cody Poteet Can’t say I understand this one. Bellinger seems like a pretty solid piece to have if you’re going to make a run for it. I understand this move is to save salary (Bellinger is owed a bundle) - but it’s the Cubs, who have plenty of cash. Maybe if they make a run at giving Corbin Burnes a contract and need the checks to clear. Hoyer said he’s not going to just give the 3B job to Shaw without seeing him this spring. But they’re running out of corner infielders - what options do they currently have? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/193 "2024-12-18T00:52:31Z")
It’s a salary dump. The Cubs front office figured that Bellinger would opt out after his first season with the new contract. But he had a down year because of a rib injury and a broken finger, and he took the bigger payday by choosing to stay put. I don’t blame him for that. So the Cubs panicked when he announced he was coming back. They didn’t want to eat more of his contract to get a higher-value pitcher. As it stands right now, they plan on giving Shaw a good look at 3rd, assuming that Hoerner is sufficiently recovered from his arm surgery. At the very least, they have the Rule 5 guy they just picked up. I look for them to pick up a journeyman if neither Shaw or Triantos impress coming out of spring training. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/194 "2024-12-18T04:00:14Z")
As of now the Yankees outfield is Bellinger in center, Judge back to right and Jasson Dominguez in left. Dominguez is still a huge question mark. He had 8 good games in the majors before he needed TJ surgery. He was used infrequently last season when he came back from injury. 2025 is his year to show if he’s up to the hype. They still have big questions in the infield. Short is really the only set position. Gleyber Torres isn’t signed and I think they will pass on him. Ideally they would move Chisholm to 2nd which is his natural position. Rizzo is probably done. DJ LeMahieu has two years left in his contract but has been injury prone and pretty bad the past couple season. He will most likely be on 1st. That leaves a hole at 3rd. Oswaldo Cabrera is competent but will never be a star. Unless they make another deal that’s probably where they will go. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/195 "2024-12-18T16:28:27Z")
I’m all for teams going for it, but I think take is crazy. The odds that Crochet isn’t broken or leaving as a free agent before the White Sox are even decent again are vanishingly small. Getting multiple potential everyday players seems like an easy call to me. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/196 "2024-12-18T16:38:43Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Garret Crochet is only 25, and he’s not a free agent for two more years. He is precisely the kind of player the White Sox should be KEEPING. My gut says that, after their plan to trade Crochet last season, before the trade deadline, fell through when his agent started making demands, they decided they were going to get rid of him this off-season regardless. Also, in White Sox news, their stadium is being renamed from “Guaranteed Rate Field” to “Rate Field” for 2025. Guaranteed Rate, which is a Chicago-based mortgage company, has held the naming rights for what was originally “new Comiskey Park” since 2016, and is changing their own name to simply “Rate.” [https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/white-sox-change-name-of-ballpark-to-rate-field/](https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/white-sox-change-name-of-ballpark-to-rate-field/) ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/197 "2024-12-18T17:31:29Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Garret Crochet is only 25, and he’s not a free agent for two more years. He is precisely the kind of player the White Sox should be KEEPING. Yeah, I’m going to join hawkeyeop on this. It would be crazy for any team with a half-decent shot to contend for even the playoffs within the next 2 years to trade Crochet away. Quickly doing the math on the back of an envelope, that’s every team _but_ the White Sox (and maybe the Marlins, Rockies and Angels). They have a long, hard rebuild ahead of them, and they need all the dart throws they can get. I might agree with you if Crochet was a hitter though. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/198 "2024-12-18T18:35:56Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Also, in White Sox news, their stadium is being renamed from “Guaranteed Rate Field” to “Rate Field” for 2025. Guaranteed Rate, which is a Chicago-based mortgage company, has held the naming rights for what was originally “new Comiskey Park” since 2016, and is changing their own name to simply “Rate.” What’s the record for most names applied to the same ballpark? This is now the fourth different name applied to a stadium that’s only 34 years old. San Fran is on their fourth name too and that park is only 24 years old. Houston will soon be on their fourth name - people forget it was very briefly just Astros Field after the Enron fiasco, prior to being Minute Maid, but they’re now changing to Name 4, Daikin Park. Do people even use these stupid names in common conversation? Our ballpark has been called Rogers Centre for a long time and many people still sneer at that name and call it Skydome or just “The Dome.” ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/199 "2024-12-18T18:40:42Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > What’s the record for most names applied to the same ballpark? This is now the fourth different name applied to a stadium that’s only 34 years old. The Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, which is, of course, now no longer an MLB ballpark, has gone by six different names in the past 20 years, including: - Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum – reverting to its original name several times when naming rights deals ended, including the present day - Network Associates Coliseum - McAfee Coliseum - [Overstock.com](http://Overstock.com) Coliseum - [O.com](http://O.com) Coliseum - RingCentral Coliseum ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/200 "2024-12-18T22:23:40Z")
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