# MLB Offseason Thread 2024-2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [November 1, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526 "2024-11-01T01:39:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/262 "2025-01-11T01:26:54Z")
Doesn’t roughly the entire Atlanta Braves lineup consist of stars that signed extensions? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/263 "2025-01-11T20:24:05Z")
MLB has indefinitely [banned the Yankees fans](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43362055/mlb-bans-two-yankees-fans-interfered-dodgers-betts) who interfered with Mookie Betts during the World Series. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/264 "2025-01-12T16:07:19Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Doesn’t roughly the entire Atlanta Braves lineup consist of stars that signed extensions? A lot of it. Players WILL accept extensions. Signing Guerrero to a $440 million deal or whatever is risky. But at some point you have to take a risk on someone, don’t you? I’m sorry but I really do not believe you have a serious shot at winning a World Series with nothing but guys making the minimum. If you aren’t willing to take your chance on a guy who’s still not even 26 years old and hits like Frank Robinson I’m not exactly sure who you would take a chance on. Maybe he’ll burn out in four years, I dunno, but ANYONE can fail or burn out or whatever. Every contract is chancy. Every decision has uncertainty. The opportunity to tie up a guy like this, who is this important to the fan base, comes around once a generation _if you’re lucky_. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/265 "2025-01-16T03:14:32Z")
For shits and giggles, here’s the 2025 contenders for the HoF, and MLBNetwork’s Jon Morosi’s vote for who should and should not be inducted: Yes: Carlos Beltran Mark Buehrle Andruw Jones Ian Kinsler Brian McCann Jimmy Rollins CC Sabathia Ichiro Suzuki Chase Utley Billy Wagner No: Bobby Abreu Carlos Gonzalez Curtis Granderson Felix Hernandez Torii Hunter Adam Jones Russel Martin Dustin Pedroia Andy Pettitte Hanley Ramirez Manny Ramirez Fernando Rodney Alex Rodriguez Francisco Rodriguez Troy Tulowitzki Omar Vizquel David Wright Ben Zobrist Now, I’m not as big a stat nerd as people like @RickJay are (and I mean that with affection), but I’m bored, and I want to read some more debates as concerns Morosi and his picks. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/266 "2025-01-16T03:32:23Z")
Here you go! > [@The 2025 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot - SDMB, Let's Vote! And Argue!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-sdmb-lets-vote-and-argue/1010415): > > The 2025 Hall of Fame ballot has been set, with a few names already eliminated by the screeners. Here we go. NOTE: I’m going to do the 14 first times, then come back later and edit this post to add everyone else. Normally I do these alphabetically but this time I’ll do the first time guys first. FIRST BALLOT NOMINEES CC Sabathia To my mind Sabathia is a clear Hall of Famer. His career value, given the era he pitched in, is a bit above historical HOF standards, and he helped a lot of teams… ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/267 "2025-01-16T03:40:22Z")
As to Morosi’s ballot, it’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/268 "2025-01-16T13:17:21Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I want to read some more debates as concerns Morosi and his picks. Voters put a lot of players on their ballots that they know aren’t Hall of Famers, and who have no chance of being elected. To them, it’s a way of honoring them as being really good players. The only ballots that piss me off are the ones that omit clearly deserving players for reasons like “they should be unanimous” or “they should have to wait a few years before getting in”. If I had a ballot, I’d put ARod and Clemens and Manny and Bonds in - but I understand people’s reasoning who don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/269 "2025-01-17T21:44:34Z")
Toronto has freed up some funds (possibly for Sasaki) via a [trade with Cleveland](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43455283/blue-jays-get-2m-pool-space-trade-guardians). Toronto gets underperforming outfielder Myles Straw and $2 million in international signing money ($3.75 million total) in exchange for either cash or the ever-popular PTBNL. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/270 "2025-01-17T23:31:01Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Toronto has freed up some funds (possibly for Sasaki) via a [trade with Cleveland](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43455283/blue-jays-get-2m-pool-space-trade-guardians). > > Toronto gets underperforming outfielder Myles Straw and $2 million in international signing money ($3.75 million total) in exchange for either cash or the ever-popular PTBNL. Sasaki going to the Dodgers. > **[Roki Sasaki signs with Dodgers: Japanese ace agrees to deal with World Series...](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-signs-with-dodgers-japanese-ace-agrees-to-deal-with-world-series-champs/)** > > The 23-year-old pitcher has been making international headlines since he was a teenager ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/271 "2025-01-18T00:08:14Z")
As a lifelong Yankees fan, I’m beginning to understand why everyone always hated us. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/272 "2025-01-18T00:30:24Z")
Why the past tense? We _still_ hate you! 😛 This just means the rest of the rotation will suffer debilitating and stupid injuries all year long. Og forbid everybody stay healthy for the season. When’s the last time **that** happened on the Dodgers? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/273 "2025-01-18T00:40:45Z")
[Poll in the HoF thread is up and running!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-baseball-hall-of-fame-ballot-sdmb-lets-vote-and-argue/1010415/42) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/274 "2025-01-18T00:51:33Z")
[The tracker](https://www.bbhoftracker.com/) currently has these totals for those over 50%: Ichiro 100% CC Sabathia 92.8% Billy Wagner 84.4% Carlos Beltran 80.2% Andruw Jones 72.5% Chase Utley 53.3% Only question now (top 3 are mortal locks by now I’d say) is what the private voters (who tend to be more small-hall and less forgiving of lapses in moral judgement) will do with Beltran. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/275 "2025-01-18T19:02:17Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Only question now (top 3 are mortal locks by now I’d say) is what the private voters (who tend to be more small-hall and less forgiving of lapses in moral judgement) will do with Beltran. The other question is will Ichiro be a unanimous selection. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/276 "2025-01-19T19:36:30Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > The other question is will Ichiro be a unanimous selection. Now that Mo broke that seal, maybe. Doesn’t mean much to me though and in time it won’t mean much to anyone. Everyone knows that it’s just stupid that Willie Mays and Tom Seaver and dozens of other guys weren’t unanimous. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/277 "2025-01-19T20:03:30Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/278 "2025-01-19T21:07:41Z")
Tanner Scott signs a [4 year, $72 million deal](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43479164/dodgers-land-closer-tanner-scott-4-year-72m-sources-say) with…guess who? The Dodgers. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/279 "2025-01-20T20:00:28Z")
Santander to Toronto, [5 years, $90+ million](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43493318/source-blue-jays-anthony-santander-agree-deal). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/280 "2025-01-20T20:44:54Z")
I’m not delighted. Santander isn’t a good outfielder. He can hit home runs but doesn’t really do anything else well. Moving away from Baltimore’s horrific left field fence sure can’t hurt him tho. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/281 "2025-01-24T01:46:02Z")
Jurickson Profar to Atlanta, [3 years, $42 million](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43538252/jurickson-profar-braves-agree-3-year-42-million-deal). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526.md?page=15)