# MLB Offseason Thread 2024-2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [November 1, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526 "2024-11-01T01:39:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/282 "2025-01-24T18:51:31Z")

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Now there’s rumours the Jays want to sign Pete Alonso, which would likely mean trading Vladimir Guerrero Jr., which makes the team objectively worse.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/283 "2025-01-24T19:26:29Z")

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True. But there are predictions that Vlad will command upwards of $400 million, and if they don’t think that he’ll stay, it makes sense to get as much as they can for him before he walks away.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/284 "2025-01-25T01:42:22Z")

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Mark Buehrle to get a statue at Comiskey.

> **[White Sox to honor Buehrle with statue in 2025](https://www.mlb.com/news/mark-buehrle-white-sox-statue-2025?partnerID=mlbapp-iOS_article-share)**
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> CHICAGO -- The White Sox will be commissioning a statue in Mark Buehrle's honor, as announced Friday night at SoxFest Live. It will be unveiled during a pregame ceremony on July 11 of the upcoming season, during a celebration marking the 20-year...

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/285 "2025-01-25T16:04:33Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> True. But there are predictions that Vlad will command upwards of $400 million, and if they don’t think that he’ll stay, it makes sense to get as much as they can for him before he walks away.

So give him the cash.

$400-$500 million is fair for a player of his age and ability, given recent contracts. You’ve gotta pay a star at some point. Rogers Communications has the money.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/286 "2025-01-31T02:46:20Z")

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Max Scherzer to [Toronto for a one-year](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43629693/sources-blue-jays-reach-deal-free-agent-max-scherzer), $15.5 million deal.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/287 "2025-01-31T17:36:59Z")

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In todays baseball that’s a great deal for both sides. If he’s a bust or gets hurt it’s not a big commitment

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/288 "2025-01-31T17:47:22Z")

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It really is, little risked.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/289 "2025-02-02T20:18:04Z")

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Former commissioner Fay Vincent has died:

> **[Fay Vincent, baseball commissioner during three years of turmoil, dies at 86](https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/fay-vincent-baseball-commissioner-during-194719462.html)**
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> Fay Vincent, who became an unexpected baseball commissioner in 1989 following the death of A. Bartlett Giamatti and then was forced out three years later by owners intent on a labor confrontation with players, has died. Vincent had undergone...

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/290 "2025-02-02T20:38:12Z")

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I’d completely forgotten about his plans for realignment, and the Cubs taking the case to court to oppose moving to the NL West.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/291 "2025-02-05T01:39:50Z")

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Houston will [retire Billy Wagner’s #13](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43693461/astros-retire-no-13-hall-famer-billy-wagner-august) jersey this summer.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/292 "2025-02-05T16:23:33Z")

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The Yankees bring back lefty reliever Tim Hill on a one year deal. Not a blockbuster move but it helps complete the bullpen. He pitched very well for them last season.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/293 "2025-02-05T16:26:11Z")

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That is good news. I think it is an excellent move. He was very good for the Yanks and it is great getting a lefty that has shown the ability to pitch in NY.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/294 "2025-02-05T17:45:38Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> That is good news. I think it is an excellent move. He was very good for the Yanks and it is great getting a lefty that has shown the ability to pitch in NY.

The man has been through a lot. He had colon cancer when he was 25. He has Lynch Syndrome which means he is genetically susceptible to it. He had part of his colon removed and made his way back into the major leagues. Pitching in New York is easy compared to that.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/295 "2025-02-05T17:46:59Z")

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Damn, I didn’t realize that.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/296 "2025-02-05T18:01:09Z")

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MLB has fired umpire Pat Hoberg for sharing a gambling app with a friend, as well as deleting information/texts from his phone regarding the investigation.

Hoberg was one of the most accurate umpires in the league.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/297 "2025-02-05T23:41:30Z")

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It’s this sort of thing I have been predicting would happen. and been afraid of happening, for some time now. Tip of the iceberg, folks.

If these accusations are true, Hoberg absolutely deserved lifetime banishment.

The spread of sports gambling online is a fucking disease. This is a tiny fraction of the damage it will do. Is doing.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/298 "2025-02-05T23:53:27Z")

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I gotta say it caught me off guard. Hoberg is extremely well-liked and respected. I’m shocked he got caught up in this. If it had been Angel Hernandez or someone equally terrible at their job, it would make sense.

Sports betting is a big sticky mess, and the big sports getting entangled with it makes it even worse. You’re right - this is just going to get worse.

I highly recommend Michael Lewis’s most recent season of his podcast “Against the Rules” which covers sports betting. It’s fascinating.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/299 "2025-02-05T23:58:47Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> If it had been Angel Hernandez or someone equally terrible at their job, it would make sense.

Skill in your job has nothing to do with your ethics.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/300 "2025-02-06T00:06:56Z")

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I just meant from a perspective of justifying why someone is particularly bad at their job. Hoberg is/was quantifiably good - there wasn’t a lot of wiggle room for him to shift the balance of a game.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/301 "2025-02-06T05:50:14Z")

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Pete Alonzo is [back with the Mets](https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/sports/pete-alonso-decides-to-bet-on-himself-with-two-year-mets-contract/) on a 2-year deal for $54 million.

Good for both sides. The Mets now have a serious power bat to go along with Soto in making a run in '25, and Alonso, with an opt-out after this year, has incentive to prove wrong the doubters who think he’s in decline.

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