# MLB Offseason Thread 2024-2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [November 1, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526 "2024-11-01T01:39:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/161 "2024-12-12T18:56:51Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > On their 40 man roster, they have Gabriel Arias who has major league experience at SS plus a bit at 2B. Daniel Schneeman was on their roster last year playing both in the infield and outfield. They also have Juan Brito who has mostly played 2B though not in the majors. Yeah we have plenty of guys we can put as a warm body at 2B. None of them Platinum Glove caliber like Giminez. But they have more promise at the plate. From what I briefly read yesterday, Brito is ready so I won’t be surprised to see him in March. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/162 "2024-12-12T21:00:33Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > With the White Sox sending Crochet to Boston, as well as being in talks to trade outfielder Luis Robert Jr., possibly to the Reds, this would leave the Sox with only two players – pitchers Jonathan Cannon and Jared Shuster – who posted a bWAR of 1 or better last year. They do not currently have a batter with a bWAR better than 0.2. > > As it seems unlikely that Chicago will be a buyer in the free agency market, unless they have a number of minor-leaguers who are ready for prime time, it could well be that 2025 will be just as dire on the South Side as 2024 was. Actually even if Robert goes, the ChiSox do have a batter with a bWAR above 0.2 - their lone free agent signing so far, Mike Tauchman, who racked up a 0.6 bWAR on the north side of Chicago last year. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/163 "2024-12-12T21:07:18Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > Actually even if Robert goes, the ChiSox do have a batter with a bWAR above 0.2 - their lone free agent signing so far, Mike Tauchman, who racked up a 0.6 bWAR on the north side of Chicago last year Thanks – I’d missed that signing! And, to be entirely fair, they still have Andrew Benintendi on the roster. He had a terrible bWAR of -0.8 last season, but was substantially better in August and September than he had been earlier in the season – so if he could actually build on that, he might not be awful in '25. But, even so, they are looking to be a starless team next year. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/164 "2024-12-13T16:22:43Z")
The Mets are going to [retire David Wright’s #5 jersey](https://sny.tv/articles/mets-retire-david-wright-5?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3vOA0gj8821yv7uCd3UJ8kWhVn82PxOj4zQTidU8Cqf7er952XQvicW3s_aem__mezIV1zEWUbZgINRazsTg) in 2025. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/165 "2024-12-13T16:27:51Z")
Makes sense. Their best 3b ever. A position they were mostly snakebit at. [Played his entire career for the Mets](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wrighda03.shtml). The [lesser #5 in town](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dimagjo01.shtml), but a worthy choice all the same. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/166 "2024-12-13T17:45:04Z")
The Yankees have traded [Nestor Cortes and Caleb Durbin](https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/brewers-trade-devin-williams-yankees.html) to the Brewers in exchange for Devin Williams. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/167 "2024-12-13T17:48:32Z")
[Devin Williams](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willide03.shtml) Very solid right-handed relief pitcher and possible alternate closer. He missed the start of last season with a stress fractures in the back. He had a strong August & September after his return. He has virtually no record in the AL East, but uses a changeup — nicknamed the “Airbender” > [is one of the most dominant pitches in the entire sport](https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/brewers-trade-devin-williams-yankees.html). He’s finished off 2299 big league plate appearances with that pitch, during which opponents have posted a comically feeble .139/.223/.200. The pitch boasts a preposterous 23% swinging-strike rate. * * * * * * So there is a good chance that Cashman is close to signing or trading for either a 2B or 3B as Durbin was basically our closest to ready 2B prospect. The idea of a third baseman is to move **Jazz Chisholm Jr.** back to second. I wonder if Bregman maybe is close to signing with the Yanks? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/168 "2024-12-13T18:26:26Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > [Devin Williams](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willide03.shtml) > Very solid right-handed relief pitcher and possible alternate closer. They weren’t going to give up Durbin unless they thought Williams will be the closer. Weaver stepped up last year but there is no confidence in him being the closer long term. I’m sorry to see Durbin go. I think he’s going to be good. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/169 "2024-12-13T20:45:28Z")
The Cubs have acquired OF [Kyle Tucker](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/42952213/cubs-acquiring-astros-kyle-tucker) from the Astros in exchange for 3B Isaac Paredes and RHP Hayden Wesneski. Chicago also sends IF prospect Cam Smith to Houston. Smith, 21, was the 14th overall pick out of Florida St. in last year’s amateur draft. He made headlines during his short pro debut, hitting home runs in six straight games for Single-A Myrtle Beach last August. He played mostly third base in college. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/170 "2024-12-13T21:07:22Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > possible alternate closer He’s easily in the top five of all relievers in the game right now - he’s not an “alternate” closer, he’s the closer. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/171 "2024-12-13T21:47:44Z")
His history of saves is not high, sorry. But closer makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/172 "2024-12-13T22:09:31Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > The Cubs have acquired OF [Kyle Tucker](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/42952213/cubs-acquiring-astros-kyle-tucker) from the Astros in exchange for 3B Isaac Paredes and RHP Hayden Wesneski. Chicago also sends IF prospect Cam Smith to Houston. > > Smith, 21, was the 14th overall pick out of Florida St. in last year’s amateur draft. He made headlines during his short pro debut, hitting home runs in six straight games for Single-A Myrtle Beach last August. He played mostly third base in college. There were rumors flying around that the Yankees were looking at him. Glad to see him go elsewhere. Not a bad player but he will be a free agent after next season. That’s not a road I want to go down again. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/173 "2024-12-13T22:19:01Z")
I think the Cubs _may_ have overpaid a little much if Tucker doesn’t sign an extension. I’m not thrilled with losing Cam Smith, but if Tucker sticks around for a few more years, it becomes more palatable. At least they didn’t trade Matt Shaw. That kid looks like a stud, and he may be the opening day 2B if Horner is traded. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/174 "2024-12-14T02:01:28Z")
Reports are the Astros were interested in trading Tucker to the Yankees but only if Luis Gil was part of the trade. The Yankees rightly said no. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/175 "2024-12-14T02:10:38Z")
Wow, that was quite the demand. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/176 "2024-12-14T02:15:42Z")
Well they did have this guy named Hader for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/177 "2024-12-14T18:21:42Z")
The A’s are continuing towards relevancy, as they’ve [acquired P Jeffrey Springs](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/42967283/acquiring-left-hander-jeffrey-springs-rays) from the Rays in a six-player deal. Springs and one other player will go to the A’s while right-handers Joe Boyle and Jacob Watters, first baseman Will Simpson, and a Competitive Balance A round draft pick – somewhere in the late 30s – will go to the Rays, sources said. The move pushes the Athletics’ payroll over $100 million. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/178 "2024-12-14T18:56:17Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Smith, 21, was the 14th overall pick out of Florida St. in last year’s amateur draft. He made headlines during his short pro debut, hitting home runs in six straight games for Single-A Myrtle Beach last August. He played mostly third base in college. I watch a lot of FSU baseball games. Extremely impressed with him. Of course, I’m no expert in telling what a stud amateur will be like in the big leagues. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/179 "2024-12-14T19:16:56Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I think the Cubs _may_ have overpaid a little much if Tucker doesn’t sign an extension. There’s not a chance the Cubs overpaid for Kyle Tucker. He is an absolutely amazing baseball player. He has gold glove defense paired with tremendous plate,l discipline, paired with some real raw power. Extension or no extension, he is a huge asset, even for one year. Giving up a couple prospects, and keeping Matt Shaw in the system was a tremendous move. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-offseason-thread-2024-2025/1009526/180 "2024-12-14T19:53:49Z")
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