# MLB Playoffs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 5, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791 "2012-10-05T11:22:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/21 "2012-10-06T00:40:07Z")

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Here is a link to a bad video of the call: [Infield Fly Rule Controversy: Braves vs. Cardinals Wild Card Game Includes Disputed Call (VIDEO) | HuffPost Sports](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/05/infield-fly-rule-braves-cardinals-wild-card_n_1944240.html)

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/22 "2012-10-06T00:43:01Z")

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I’m primarily a Red Sox fan, but I’ve lived in St. Louis long enough to become a pretty solid Cardinals fan.

I think it was a bad call, the protest is probably futile, and the reaction by the fans is classless.

I hate it when a team I root for wins controversially.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/23 "2012-10-06T00:45:31Z")

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Much better quality video [here](http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_10_05_slnmlb_atlmlb_1&highlight_content_id=25336303&c_id=mlb).

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/24 "2012-10-06T00:49:52Z")

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What’s the deal with the protest? What can they do but replay the game, and I doubt that would happen. Too many scheduling problems.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/25 "2012-10-06T00:50:26Z")

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Cardinals throw the ball through the clown’s mouth, win trip to playoffs and a coupon for a free large soda. Such a joke.

I’m glad it was the Braves (a team I don’t like) so my hatred of the 1-game play-in is pure. The bad call is just icing. At least if it had happened in a game 7, you could say the team had a decent number of tries to win the series before that.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/26 "2012-10-06T00:51:29Z")

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I hope if they genuinely feel there should be a replay of the game, they won’t let scheduling stop them. But I don’t think there’s even a ghost of a chance for them to play it over.

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**Author:** ![BetsQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@BetsQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BetsQ)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/27 "2012-10-06T00:52:31Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> I hate it when a team I root for wins controversially.

That sounds about right. I’m inclined to think this is a reason that a one-game playoff isn’t a great idea.

I’m in the DC area now and not excited about the Cards playing the Nats. I want both teams to win. I’d like the Nats to gain some more of a fan base out here, and I think post-season success would help with that. On the other hand, I can’t root against the Cards - despite a solidly mediocre season.

I am glad that Chipper got one last hit.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/28 "2012-10-06T00:53:14Z")

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There is no way in hell that was an ‘Infield’ fly.

But that’s the way the ball bounces. And I really don’t like the Braves, so I can’t get too worked up about it.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/29 "2012-10-06T00:55:29Z")

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> [@BetsQ](#):
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> I am glad that Chipper got one last hit.

Heh, also an iffy call, but no big deal.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/30 "2012-10-06T01:00:19Z")

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Replay the game?! Never.

As bad as that call was, there have been many that were worse and no games were replayed nor were calls reversed.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/31 "2012-10-06T01:01:55Z")

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If that is the correct call then the rule seriously Needs to be rewritten.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/32 "2012-10-06T01:08:04Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Well, the call is supposed to be timely so that the base runners have the chance to potentially tag and advance at their own risk. This was not the case, and the runners were halfway instead.
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> And the defensive play is supposed to be normal effort (I don’t know the exact wording) and I would say that is not true because of how the play developed.
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> Note: I hate the Braves. But I also hate the Cards. So my opinion is pretty objective! 😃

Watch the replay. Kozma barely jogged. That’s hardly extraordinary effort.

And the runners did advance.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/33 "2012-10-06T01:42:45Z")

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This just in. Protest was denied by MLB. SLT wins.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/34 "2012-10-06T01:43:48Z")

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The call was correct. The infielder was waving off the outfielder and seemingly camped under the ball. He appeared to be able to make the play with ordinary effort, thus the infield fly was called.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/35 "2012-10-06T02:03:13Z")

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> [@Carmady](#):
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> Cardinals throw the ball through the clown’s mouth, win trip to playoffs and a coupon for a free large soda. Such a joke.
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> I’m glad it was the Braves (a team I don’t like) so my hatred of the 1-game play-in is pure. The bad call is just icing. At least if it had happened in a game 7, you could say the team had a decent number of tries to win the series before that.

Well, that’s the whole \*point \*of the one-game playoff: to _not_ get a decent number of tries, but instead have your continued presence in the postseason be a crapshoot, so that nobody in their right mind would give up on the race for the division championship just because they could land a wild card spot.

I’d say it’s working perfectly. It doesn’t fix all of the problems with MLB’s postseason structure, but it fixes the one big problem it was meant to fix. Pennant races are real again, and not just in the crap divisions, but in the best ones too. It isn’t quite the same as the pre-1994 era where the division champ went on and the second-place team went home for the winter, but it’s real enough. Braves-Giants 1993 is no longer The Last Pennant Race Ever. It’s good to see MLB do something right, for once.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/36 "2012-10-06T02:05:54Z")

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Darvish is worth every penny tonite. Putting together some nice setups and hitting his mark. Impressive.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/37 "2012-10-06T02:10:07Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> This just in. Protest was denied by MLB. SLT wins.

Shock and surprise. 😉

When was the last time a protest of a game was upheld? Has this happened since the [Pine Tar Game](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tar_Incident)?

ETA: Turns out that [a protest of a 1986 game was upheld](http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/The-last-time-a-protested-game-was-actually-uphe?urn=mlb,242095). That’s apparently the most recent instance.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/38 "2012-10-06T02:16:56Z")

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Goodbye Chipper (he went to the same high school as I). ☹

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/39 "2012-10-06T02:20:27Z")

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And Joe Saunders is making me look like an idiot, having held the Rangers to 1 run over the first 5 innings. And now the O’s have scored in the top of the 6th to take the lead, and are still batting.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/40 "2012-10-06T02:26:01Z")

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Ok, I had no idea Jim Thome was an Oriole now. Since my teams are out (thanks for tanking again, Pirates, and for sucking again, Indians)…I’m rooting for the Orioles and Nationals this postseason. Would make for an interesting World Series to watch all those conflicted Nats fans…

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