# MLB Playoffs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 5, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791 "2012-10-05T11:22:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/441 "2012-10-22T12:55:22Z")

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Giants fan here. I’m worried.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/442 "2012-10-22T13:29:49Z")

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Giants fans are always worried. 🙂

But whoever wins tonight is going to have their hands full with Detroit. Did you see what their starters did to the Yankees? Holy crap. And the Giants can’t hit anyway!

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/443 "2012-10-22T13:37:43Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> whoever wins tonight is going to have their hands full with Detroit.

A fully rested Detroit, ravening for blood.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/444 "2012-10-22T13:47:35Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> A fully rested Detroit, ravening for blood.

Somebody should look up all the cases where one LCS went 7, and the other was a sweep, and what then happened in the Series.

OK, fine, I’ll do it myself. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ambihelical\_Hexnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@Ambihelical\_Hexnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambihelical_Hexnut)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/445 "2012-10-22T14:35:50Z")

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If we include the period between 1969 and 1984, when League Championship series were best of 5, we get the following list:

1976

NLCS: Reds over Phillies in 3  
ALCS: Yankees over Royals in 5  
WS: Reds over Yankees in 4

1980

NLCS: Phillies over Astros in 5  
ALCS: Royals over Yankees in 3  
WS: Phillies over Royals in 6

1981

NLCS: Dodgers over Expos in 5  
ALCS: Yankees over Athletics in 3  
WS: Dodgers over Yankees in 6

1982

NLCS: Cardinals over Braves in 3  
ALCS: Brewers over Angels in 5  
WS: Cardinals over Brewers in 7

1984

NLCS: Padres over Cubs in 5  
ALCS: Tigers over Royals in 3  
WS: Tigers over Padres in 5

1988

NLCS: Dodgers over Mets in 7  
ALCS: Athletics over Red Sox in 4  
WS: Dodgers over Athletics in 5

2006

NLCS: Cardinals over Mets in 7  
ALCS: Tigers over Athletics in 4  
WS: Cardinals over Tigers in 5

2007

NLCS: Rockies over Diamondbacks in 4  
ALCS: Red Sox over Indians in 7  
WS: Red Sox over Rockies in 4

It’s happened 8 times before this year. The team sweeping the LCS has gone on to win 3 World Series (5 wins for the team whose LCS went the distance). If the Cardinals win tonight, the LCS results will be identical to those in 2006 (except for the losing opponents, of course).

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/446 "2012-10-22T14:41:15Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> But whoever wins tonight is going to have their hands full with Detroit. Did you see what their starters did to the Yankees? Holy crap. And the Giants can’t hit anyway!

They said the same thing about the Rangers in 2010. I recall things like “Well, Cliff Lee is pitching games 1 and 5, so there’s 2 wins for the Rangers…”

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/447 "2012-10-22T15:26:31Z")

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> [@markdash](#):
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> Cardinals fans: How are you feeling about tomorrow’s game? I feel like Cardinals fans are all like “whatever, even if we’re down 4 in the 9th we’ll come back to win, no sweat” because of this team’s insane comebacks over the last couple years.

I think “we” will lose. I actually thought that ever since I spent all day Friday explaining to people that I wasn’t “going to watch the Cardinals clinch, I was going to watch them _try_ to clench”. The entire fan base was just so sure they’d pound Zito and win at home that it was kind of nauseating. So now I’ve been mentally prepared for a 1996 NLCS replay, which so far is going precisely to script.

And, even though I’m a pretty rabid fan who goes to at least 20 games in person every year and watches 95% of the rest, I find my response rather muted. They won the World Series last year with a team that wasn’t all that great, really. The team this year isn’t all that great either (although I think it’s better than the Giants). So it’s no shame to go out in a Game 7 of the NLCS.

For me the real bright spot has been watching Rosenthal and Miller in the pen. The Cardinals have tons of really good young pitching right now ready to fill in the rotation - the next 5 years look bright.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/448 "2012-10-22T15:50:17Z")

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> [@Ambihelical\_Hexnut](#):
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> It’s happened 8 times before this year. The team sweeping the LCS has gone on to win 3 World Series (5 wins for the team whose LCS went the distance).

So absolutely no correlation. Fascinating. Thanks!

> [@Jas09](#):
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> For me the real bright spot has been watching Rosenthal and Miller in the pen. The Cardinals have tons of really good young pitching right now ready to fill in the rotation - the next 5 years look bright.

Rosenthal is a freak. You shouldn’t be allowed to have a breaking ball, and a 100mph fastball. You have to choose. I hope he gets traded to the American League. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/449 "2012-10-22T16:05:53Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Rosenthal is a freak. You shouldn’t be allowed to have a breaking ball, and a 100mph fastball. You have to choose. I hope he gets traded to the American League. 🙂

I’m interested to see what he can do as a starter (which was his role in the minors) - I’m sure he doesn’t throw 100 in that role. His MiLB numbers weren’t off-the-wall, but he did have a 9ish K/9 and a 2.5:1 K:BB ratio. I half-jokingly wanted him to start last night in place of Carpenter.

Miller is actually still considered the better SP prospect, so seeing them both compete well at this level is encouraging.

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**Author:** ![Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marconi_N.Cheese)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/450 "2012-10-22T18:57:25Z")

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Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit tranquilizers. Unless this game is like the last couple, where the Cards did their best “Walking Dead” imitation.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/451 "2012-10-23T00:25:51Z")

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1-0 Giants!

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/452 "2012-10-23T00:57:45Z")

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2-0!

The Giants’ starting pitcher has had an RBI in each of the last 3 games.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/453 "2012-10-23T01:07:04Z")

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This feels like Game 5 of the NLDS…excruciating.

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**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/454 "2012-10-23T01:17:28Z")

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The Cardinals have NO defence. 3 runs score!

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/455 "2012-10-23T01:17:45Z")

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GO Hunter!

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**Author:** ![Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marconi_N.Cheese)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/456 "2012-10-23T01:25:57Z")

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I need new curse words, I’ve worn out all the ones I already know.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/457 "2012-10-23T01:30:03Z")

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All I can say is that the Giants enjoy the favor of the baseball gods, for the moment. There’s no explanation for what they’re doing tonight. I’ve never seen a shortstop break the wrong way on a ground ball.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/458 "2012-10-23T01:37:58Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> This feels like Game 5 of the NLDS…excruciating.

I’m breathing just a bit easier now.

Just a bit, though.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/459 "2012-10-23T01:40:54Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> All I can say is that the Giants enjoy the favor of the baseball gods, for the moment. There’s no explanation for what they’re doing tonight. I’ve never seen a shortstop break the wrong way on a ground ball.

We’ve got them quaking in their cleats…they don’t know which way to run.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs/636791/460 "2012-10-23T03:02:28Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> All I can say is that the Giants enjoy the favor of the baseball gods, for the moment. There’s no explanation for what they’re doing tonight. I’ve never seen a shortstop break the wrong way on a ground ball.

Meh, rookie made a bad play on a very weird hit (nice slo-mo replay by Fox showing the bat hitting the ball at least two or maybe three times). The kind of thing that happens when you’re starting a rookie at a key spot in a Game 7 - too bad Furcal threw his arm out a few months ago.

Bad time for the Cards to implode, but anybody that followed this team all year knew it was just a question of whether the luck would hold through the World Series. Clearly it didn’t.

On to 2013 and another run for the pennant…

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