# MLB post season: 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 4, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592 "2009-10-04T21:59:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/341 "2009-10-29T02:36:49Z")
How lucky is MLB that the Rockies aren’t in the Series this year? A foot of snow on the ground in Denver and it looks like they are getting more. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/342 "2009-10-29T02:36:57Z")
That’s actually not a stat. Platitude, you were looking for, maybe? Bromide? Silly nonsense? ---
**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/343 "2009-10-29T02:55:31Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Pitching shuts down hitting. And vice-versa. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/344 "2009-10-29T03:04:12Z")
Last Sunday the Leafs’ Nikolai Kulemin was given a penalty for abuse of officials after telling them, “You’re worse than baseball umpires!”. The penalty was well-deserved. There are some lines you just don’t cross. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/345 "2009-10-29T03:22:32Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > That’s actually not a stat. Platitude, you were looking for, maybe? Bromide? Silly nonsense? Yeah? Sabermetric freak! Here’s another stat for ya: pine tar is sticky. Or how about this one: Speed never slumps! Take that to your mother’s basement. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/346 "2009-10-29T03:36:08Z")
Dare I call the Phillies sweep now? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/347 "2009-10-29T03:41:34Z")
Schweet! One complaint about this postseason’s Yankees games: the ESPN radio announcer (the one who isn’t Joe Morgan) has the most irritating way of saying “Rodriguez”. He doesn’t say “Rodriguez”, he says “Ur-rodriguez”. It’s weird, because he doesn’t say “Jimmy Ur-rollins”. It’s as if he’s trying to do the Spanish rolled R, but isn’t actually physically able to do it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/348 "2009-10-29T03:43:53Z")
> [@Ichbin\_Dubist](#): > > And vice-versa. Nope. The All Star game shows it. The lineups are loaded with the best hitters in the game . But it usually is a low scoring game. The all star pitchers shut them down. If hitting was dominant the games would have scores in the teens. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/349 "2009-10-29T04:02:33Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Take that to your mother’s basement. Joke’s on you – I never left! Too bad the Yankees don’t have any dominant pitching. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Buttons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Mr\_Buttons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Buttons)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/350 "2009-10-29T04:26:43Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Too bad the Yankees don’t have any dominant pitching. C.C. Sabathia? I mean come on, before tonight’s game he and Cliff Lee were the standouts in pitching in the post season. We Philly fans were freaking out much more about our bullpen one month ago than any of you Yankees are freaking out now. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/351 "2009-10-29T04:38:25Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Nope. The All Star game shows it. The lineups are loaded with the best hitters in the game . But it usually is a low scoring game. The all star pitchers shut them down. If hitting was dominant the games would have scores in the teens. I don’t even know where to start with this. It demonstrates such a poor understanding of baseball, and of the relationship between pitching and hitting, that i don’t think it’s even amenable to correction. **Mr Buttons** , i think **Jimmy Chitwood** was being ironic. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/352 "2009-10-29T04:39:03Z")
I live in Philadelphia. And yeah, I was being sarcastic. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Buttons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Mr\_Buttons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Buttons)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/353 "2009-10-29T04:54:09Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I live in Philadelphia. And yeah, I was being sarcastic. My apologies, I’ve been fighting off Yankee fans on boards at a 4:1 Yankee-to-Philly ratio. Plus I just got home from the bar, looking to poke Yankee fans in the eye. I misjudged thee and offer up my sincerest of apologies. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/354 "2009-10-29T06:50:05Z")
What a great game! Cliff Lee was incredible. The fielding plays were really funny. I felt a little bad for him that he wasn’t able to grab the shutout. But, that’s just greedy. I am high on Pedro. Clearly, the Yankee lineup is several magnitudes more powerful than the lineup the Dodgers brought out and this isn’t a pitcher’s ballpark. So, I can’t expect 7 shut out innings. But, I do think(hope) he is capable of giving 6 or 7 innings and holding them under 4 runs. And, I hope the Mr. Hyde Burnett shows up. This is a tough series for the Phillies. I am not sure they can take it. But, I sure will be happy if they do! I am a little bit disappointed in the Yankee crowd. I can kind of sort of understand the Dodger fans leaving; that traffic is murder. I was really surprised to see Yankee Stadium empty out in the late innings with the Phils up by 4. I usually think of the Yankee fans as diehards like the Phillies fans - especially with a team that has the offensive firepower that this Yankees team has. But, I guess those empty seats I could see were filled up by corporate weenies earlier and that is not a proper representation of the true Yankee fan. Oh yeah. And, Chase Utley really is the man. I helped a friend with her computer in South Philly tonight. After the win I could hear car honks and yells coming from Broad Street. That was pretty fun. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/355 "2009-10-29T07:41:21Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Dare I call the Phillies sweep now? I already bought my brooo-ooom! Only thing that bugs me is, if the Phillies DO sweep, the headline won’t be saying anything about the Phillies winning, it’ll be something along the lines of “Yankees Blow It!” or “Yankees Get Swept By Some Other Team That Wears Red!” Probably not a sweep, but when the Phils take the trophy, A-Rod will look like a 1950s Hollywood starlet with gobs of mascara running down his face. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/356 "2009-10-29T13:00:35Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Sabermetric freaks, there is one huge stat to remember. Pitching shuts down hitting. While that’s not really a stat, I don’t think you’ll find any sabermetric freaks that would disagree with this. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/357 "2009-10-29T13:57:20Z")
Cliff Lee was amazing. Jesus, though, read the ESPN article. It’s not “Cliff Lee is really amazing this postseason,” it’s all “OMG, he beat the YANKEES! They went into YANKEE STADIUM and won! Against the YANKEES! Did you hear us? The Phillies beat the YANKEES in YANKEE STADIUM!” You’d think no visiting team had ever won a game in Yankee Stadium, or that the Phillies didn’t happen to be the defending champions, or that Yankee Stadium had a differently configured basball diamond from all the other ballparks or something. Jesus. I find it bizarre that professional sports journalists are expressing amazement that professional athletes wouldn’t be intimidated by the prospect of playing a road game. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/358 "2009-10-29T14:17:23Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I already bought my brooo-ooom! > > Only thing that bugs me is, if the Phillies DO sweep, the headline won’t be saying anything about the Phillies winning, it’ll be something along the lines of “Yankees Blow It!” or “Yankees Get Swept By Some Other Team That Wears Red!” > > Probably not a sweep, but when the Phils take the trophy, A-Rod will look like a 1950s Hollywood starlet with gobs of mascara running down his face. 😃 I guess that depends on which city you are near. I do think that national journalists tend to play up the _ **Yankees** _, but the _ **Yankees** _ have been lights out since the All-Star break. Chase Utley will forevermore be known as Chase “_Fucking_” Utley (though occassionally, _Fucking_ Chase Utley may be substituted). ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/359 "2009-10-29T15:16:32Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Schweet! > One complaint about this postseason’s Yankees games: the ESPN radio announcer (the one who isn’t Joe Morgan) has the most irritating way of saying “Rodriguez”. He doesn’t say “Rodriguez”, he says “Ur-rodriguez”. It’s weird, because he doesn’t say “Jimmy Ur-rollins”. It’s as if he’s trying to do the Spanish rolled R, but isn’t actually physically able to do it. That can’t possibly be your only complaint about Jon Miller. I can’t stand any of his delivery. He’s got this stupid sounds surprised by every single play, statistic, boring old story from Joe Morgan. Still better than Buck Martinez calling that guy from the Red Sox David OR-tiz. ---
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/360 "2009-10-29T16:01:05Z")
I think it’s time for Swisher to take a seat for a game. The only reason he is starting over Gardner is for his hitting, but if he is going to flail around at the plate I’d rather have a better defensive outfield and someone with game changing speed in the lineup. I also think it’s time to recognize that Burnett can turn in to Mr. Hyde no matter who is behind the plate and start Posada. > [@gonzomax](#): > > Nope. The All Star game shows it. The lineups are loaded with the best hitters in the game . But it usually is a low scoring game. The all star pitchers shut them down. If hitting was dominant the games would have scores in the teens. This is the second time you’ve said this in as many months and it’s still not true. First of all, if anything, the All-Star game has been moderately high scoring for about 20 years. Second, the best hitters in the game have to go up against the best pitchers in the game who are usually only in for an inning. If good pitching truly shuts down good hitting you’d expect the All-Star game to be much lower scoring than it has proven to be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592.md?page=19)