# MLB post season: 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 4, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592 "2009-10-04T21:59:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/421 "2009-10-31T03:55:15Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > No, you didn’t. > > This is what you said: **RickJay** has already asked you to provide evidence that anyone said this, and i now repeat the call: show us one single person who said that the Yankees would be unbeatable. Put up, or shut up. > You’re right, those home runs hit by Chase Utley were completely irrelevant to the Game 1 outcome, and the dingers hit by Teixera and Matsui in Game 2 also had no connection with the final result. Are you suggesting 2 homers for a team is a big hitting performance for the whole team? Come on. You eventually have to score some runs to win. apparently 2 or 3 will do. If a 3 to 1 game is a big hitting game, then I am wrong. The yankees scored 1 run in game one. If that is big hitting, then I don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/422 "2009-10-31T05:10:27Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Are you suggesting 2 homers for a team is a big hitting performance for the whole team? Come on. You eventually have to score some runs to win. apparently 2 or 3 will do. If a 3 to 1 game is a big hitting game, then I am wrong. The yankees scored 1 run in game one. If that is big hitting, then I don’t know what is. First, i never claimed it was a “big hitting game.” I was specifically refuting your claim that “Hitting has been of little consequence.” In fact, one could argue that, in a 3-1 game, hitting is of even greater consequence, because just a couple of hits can turn the game. Now, who are the “stat freaks” who claimed the Yankees wold be unbeatable? I’m sure you have their names hidden away somewhere, amid all your obfuscation and goalpost-moving. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/423 "2009-11-01T04:49:32Z")
The early innings looked pretty good for the Phillies. Hamels was really dealing. It’s tough for me to figure out since I am nowhere near an expert. But, did Hamels break down or did the Yankees awesome line up just stand up and take over? You can’t make mistakes against them, so I guess it is a little bit of both. I was glad to see the Phillies keep battling. And, I hope they are able to put together a better performance Sunday night. The Yankees are a great team but, I would really be surprised to see them win 4 in a row against the Phils. Blanton has his work cut out for him to keep their win streak at 2. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/424 "2009-11-01T05:30:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > First, i never claimed it was a “big hitting game.” I was specifically refuting your claim that “Hitting has been of little consequence.” In fact, one could argue that, in a 3-1 game, hitting is of even greater consequence, because just a couple of hits can turn the game. > > Now, who are the “stat freaks” who claimed the Yankees wold be unbeatable? I’m sure you have their names hidden away somewhere, amid all your obfuscation and goalpost-moving. The wandering goalposts belong to you. The hitting in this series has been anemic. Going into this game combined batting average was 220. That should give you a clue to whats determining these games. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/425 "2009-11-01T05:34:08Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The wandering goalposts belong to you. The hitting in this series has been anemic. Going into this game combined batting average was 220. That should give you a clue to whats determining these games. And yet in this game the final score was 8-5. Which small sample size wins? Yours or mine? Do you even understand what “small sample size” means? I ask you again: Who said that the Yankees would be unbeatable? Support your claim, or retract it. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/426 "2009-11-01T07:55:17Z")
I’m sure the cold weather is having no effect on hitting. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/427 "2009-11-01T11:23:06Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > The early innings looked pretty good for the Phillies. Hamels was really dealing. It’s tough for me to figure out since I am nowhere near an expert. But, did Hamels break down or did the Yankees awesome line up just stand up and take over? You can’t make mistakes against them, so I guess it is a little bit of both. > > I was glad to see the Phillies keep battling. And, I hope they are able to put together a better performance Sunday night. The Yankees are a great team but, I would really be surprised to see them win 4 in a row against the Phils. Blanton has his work cut out for him to keep their win streak at 2. I think the Yankees’ hitters just got to him. That’s baseball. Good hitters will eventually hit. Hamels also looked like he fell in love with his breaking ball, and the Yankees started looking for it. It was a really gutty performance by Pettitte. After the 3rd inning I was ready to ride out a long night, but he pulled himself together. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/428 "2009-11-01T13:01:19Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The wandering goalposts belong to you… You said that the board’s “resident statheads” claimed the Yankees were unbeatable. Please name them. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/429 "2009-11-01T14:27:50Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I think the Yankees’ hitters just got to him. That’s baseball. Good hitters will eventually hit. Hamels also looked like he fell in love with his breaking ball, and the Yankees started looking for it. > > It was a really gutty performance by Pettitte. After the 3rd inning I was ready to ride out a long night, but he pulled himself together. Well Pettitte has done this more often than not most of his career. He is prone to that one sloppy inning and if a double play he induces does not get fielded well, runs get in. So unlike AJ, I expect him to settle back down. I was just worried the hitters weren’t going to hit again. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/430 "2009-11-01T18:00:33Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I ask you again: Who said that the Yankees would be unbeatable? Support your claim, or retract it. > [@RickJay](#): > > You said that the board’s “resident statheads” claimed the Yankees were unbeatable. Please name them. Forget it, Jake. It’s **gonzomax.** 😉 ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/431 "2009-11-01T22:26:07Z")
The Phillies are really, really good, though. It is a lot like seeing a mirror of the Yankees play. But this year, we have the pitching. I think we have a better than even chance of winning the next two. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/432 "2009-11-02T01:36:21Z")
What’s up with the repeated plunking of A-Rod? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/433 "2009-11-02T01:53:17Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > What’s up with the repeated plunking of A-Rod? Smart time to do it in a way. This prevents the Yanks from plunking Utley now. At least until tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/434 "2009-11-02T02:36:38Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > What’s up with the repeated plunking of A-Rod? He deserves it. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/435 "2009-11-02T03:58:29Z")
Well, nobody ever said the Phillies played fair or sportsmanlike. Part of the game. Something to be remembered. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/436 "2009-11-02T04:35:24Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Well, nobody ever said the Phillies played fair or sportsmanlike. Part of the game. Something to be remembered. Yes, that’s true. Or, well, it makes sense at least. Or, OK. It isn’t a totally fucking crazy thing to say about a first inning hit-by-pitch. It’s pretty crazy, though. I guess honestly it’s totally fucking crazy. edit - THOSE CHEATING BASTARDS DID IT AGAIN ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/437 "2009-11-02T04:43:24Z")
Gotta love Brad Lidge. Is Jorge the worst base runner in the last 20 years? I mean he never ran up the third base line but he is truly bad on the base paths. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/438 "2009-11-02T04:46:36Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Gotta love Brad Lidge. > > Is Jorge the worst base runner in the last 20 years? I mean he never ran up the third base line but he is truly bad on the base paths. Tell me about it. He used to be awesome. I think it’s that he can’t be awesome two years in a row. Good baserunning by Damon. God, I hate the fucking Yankees. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/439 "2009-11-02T04:50:02Z")
Where the hell was the 3rd baseman on that steal? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/440 "2009-11-02T04:52:16Z")
The way the camera angle was when Damon stole second and popped up, I thought he did something stupid and was in a rundown. Very heads-up. That’s 10. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592.md?page=23)