# MLB post season: 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 4, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592 "2009-10-04T21:59:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/101 "2009-10-09T03:20:35Z")
I’ll bet Matt Holliday is taking a commercial flight home tonight. I wouldn’t want to be in a captive environment after that debacle. I was surprised to hear that he only had one error all season up to that point - in Colorado he was terrible. He was regularly replaced with a defensive player late in ballgames. > [@St.Anger](#): > > I was at the Phillies game today and what a party! I’m not even sure how the Rockies made it into the playoffs, they cant even catch a simple fly ball, but hey, anything can happen. Hey, bitch, welcome to Coors Field where the gametime temperature Saturday is going to be about 29°. Seriously, we may see a game cancelled for cold. They can play Sunday afternoon (high 46°) and Monday (56°) afternoon and be back in Philly by late evening. Not that that trip is going to be necessary. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/102 "2009-10-10T02:13:57Z")
Nothing about tonight’s game yet? It’s a good one. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/103 "2009-10-10T02:26:57Z")
Twins had bases loaded, no outs in the 11th and didn’t score. Whew. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/104 "2009-10-10T02:30:06Z")
The Twits should have sent the runner. Make them make the play. It requires a strong throw on base ,the catcher to come up with it and make a tag while holding on to the ball. It is nice to have bases loaded with nobody put, but 1 run could have won it. Then they turned into the Tigers and did not score. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/105 "2009-10-10T02:30:29Z")
Fuck yeah. That’s 2. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/106 "2009-10-10T02:53:44Z")
Twins didn’t deserve the win by leaving 17 on base, but the Yankees don’t need any more help, and they got it with possibly the most horrendous call I’ve ever seen in the MLB postseason. Calling a fair ball (by a foot!) foul, while staring right at it, and costing the Twins a sure run in the process. Inexcusable. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/107 "2009-10-10T03:00:39Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > Calling a fair ball (by a foot!) foul, while staring right at it, and costing the Twins a sure run in the process. Inexcusable. It was a “sure run” in the same sense that bases loaded with no outs is a “sure run.” Which is to say, apparently not sure at all. Even with the correct call, the Twins had no way to prevent the Yankees from letting them load the bases with no outs as they did anyway. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/108 "2009-10-10T03:05:26Z")
Any Yankees fans feel like complaining how Alex Rodriguez isn’t clutch like Captain Clutchiness tonight? No? Is the poor guy a “True Yankee” yet? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/109 "2009-10-10T03:06:29Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > Twins didn’t deserve the win by leaving 17 on base, but the Yankees don’t need any more help, and they got it with possibly the most horrendous call I’ve ever seen in the MLB postseason. Calling a fair ball (by a foot!) foul, while staring right at it, and costing the Twins a sure run in the process. Inexcusable. To be fair, it looked like the umpire was blocked by the fielder and didn’t have a great look. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/110 "2009-10-10T03:09:31Z")
> [@Carmady](#): > > It was a “sure run” in the same sense that bases loaded with no outs is a “sure run.” > > Which is to say, apparently not sure at all. > > Even with the correct call, the Twins had no way to prevent the Yankees from letting them load the bases with no outs as they did anyway. Except that it was followed by two singles… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/111 "2009-10-10T03:12:14Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Any Yankees fans feel like complaining how Alex Rodriguez isn’t clutch like Captain Clutchiness tonight? No? Is the poor guy a “True Yankee” yet? Well, he had a good ALDS before his disastrous post season streak started, but I’m happy to see him hitting big in big situations. As for the horrendously bad call - I don’t think the ump was blocked. He was down low looking right at it and screwed up big time. But it wasn’t “a foot”. It was about 2-3 inches off the line (though I’m sure we’ll see some high def photos or screen caps soon to prove me wrong). ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/112 "2009-10-10T03:16:17Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > Except that it was followed by two singles… At the risk of stating the obvious, those at-bats would have been totally different if the correct call was made. They could have been outs, walks, or even home runs for all we know. It was a terrible call, but in terms of impact it wasn’t that bad. The Twins ended up in just about the best possible situation. Even with the correct call, the Yankees could have just walked the bases loaded if they wanted. Bases loaded with no outs is the situation you hope for. It is better than runner on second with no outs. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/113 "2009-10-10T03:36:58Z")
Thunder Sticks? Didn’t those go away after the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, California won the 2002 World Series. I’d be pissed if I went to a ball game and had to listen to those things all night. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/114 "2009-10-10T04:06:52Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > Twins didn’t deserve the win by leaving 17 on base, but the Yankees don’t need any more help, and they got it with possibly the most horrendous call I’ve ever seen in the MLB postseason. Easily the worst playoff call I’ve seen since Eric Gregg’s “umpiring” in the 1997 NLCS. It was even worse than the Jeffrey Maier call, which at least was a weird play. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/115 "2009-10-10T04:50:49Z")
I’LL SHOW YOU A TRUE YANKEE!!! That was a hell of a game from start to finish, with Cabrera saving the Yankees a run in the fourth by picking Gomez off when he overran second base. Nothing you can say about Rodriguez. He’s been excellent this series and he was enormous tonight. Those home runs are why I watch sports. My girlfriend was in the shower when Rodriguez hit the home run and I think I scared the crap out of her. Then the extra innings held up our dinner plans by about an hour, Robertson had a clutch inning, and then Teixeira brought it all home. That was fantastic. The Mauer call was totally botched, no question. Even before the replay you could see that ball was fair, and it probably hit Cabrera’s glove on the way down, too. There’s no way to know what would have happened, but in the end I think it came out in the wash: if he’d hit a double, Kubel would probably have been walked to set up the double play. Instead he hit a single and Mauer moved to second. ---
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/116 "2009-10-10T04:52:43Z")
The Yankees won and the Red Sox lost. I can sleep well tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/117 "2009-10-10T11:22:18Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Hey, bitch, welcome to Coors Field where the gametime temperature Saturday is going to be about 29°. An article in the paper this morning said it could be down to 18 by the end of the game. I’m sorry for the umps; they don’t get to go sit in the dugout next to a space heater. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/118 "2009-10-10T11:31:19Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Any Yankees fans feel like complaining how Alex Rodriguez isn’t clutch like Captain Clutchiness tonight? No? Is the poor guy a “True Yankee” yet? He’s making strides. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/119 "2009-10-10T11:37:01Z")
To their credit, the umpire crew admitted they blew the call. Not that it helps the Twins any. Either way, they wound up with bases loaded and no outs and didn’t get a run in. That was a great escape job by Robertson. Joe Mauer sure is fun to watch hit though. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592/120 "2009-10-10T11:42:51Z")
One more thing… I know it’s worked out so far, but I think Girardi is over-managing this series. I know he has the schedule in his favor in regards to the bullpen, but he’s “LaRussa-ing” it a little much. His primary bullpen guys are better than just situational relievers. He could have left Chamberlain, Coke or Hughes in longer than he did (well, maybe not Hughes) last night. It may not hurt them, but I was getting frustrated watching it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season-2009/512592.md?page=7)