# MLB: Post-season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860 "2014-09-29T14:06:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/761 "2014-10-17T03:09:43Z")

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Seriously?? _Now_ we see Michael Wacha?

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/762 "2014-10-17T03:14:09Z")

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Oh, that’s just beautiful, isn’t it? Go GIANTS.

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**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/763 "2014-10-17T03:14:33Z")

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Congrats to the Giants.

Damn.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/764 "2014-10-17T03:16:33Z")

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Travis Ishikawa.

This game makes no sense whatsoever.

Four more, Giants!

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**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/765 "2014-10-17T03:17:56Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Heh. I find that funny, given that all my St. Louis friends are always complaining that Joe Buck is partisan toward the other team (no matter who that team may be).
> 
> Personally, I’ve never noticed any particular favoritism either way. Apparently, though, since he’s Jack’s son, he’s supposed to fellate the Cardinals at every opportunity.

Joe’s Twitter bio says, “I root for all teams, except yours.” He hears it but I assume all the cash he gets drowns most of it out.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/766 "2014-10-17T03:20:00Z")

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Omg! Omg! Omg!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/767 "2014-10-17T03:35:33Z")

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Baseball is so wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/768 "2014-10-17T03:37:06Z")

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I’m so glad we have 5 days until the World Series starts, because I am absolutely wiped out just from \*watching \*these last 5 games.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/769 "2014-10-17T03:39:50Z")

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Love Bruce Bochy since his days as skipper of the SD Padres. Make it 3 WS wins in 5 years Bruce, we’re pulling for you.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/770 "2014-10-17T03:53:30Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> I’m so glad we have 5 days until the World Series starts, because I am absolutely wiped out just from \*watching \*these last 5 games.

I literally could not watch when Casilla loaded the bases. Fortunately I came back for the bottom of the 9th.

There couldn’t be more unlikely hero than Ishikawa.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/771 "2014-10-17T04:10:37Z")

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Oh my god. I spent the top of the ninth in a sort of crouching fetal position whispering “please… please… please…”. That ball that bounced off Sandoval and went to Crawford. Affeldt. Travis Ishikawa. My god.

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**Author:** ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/772 "2014-10-17T06:39:45Z")

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So who will Bochy start in left field in the World Series? Ishikawa the hero who launched them into the World Series, or Mike Morse the hero who launched them into the World Series?

Neither can play left field for shit, so that’s not a consideration.

Morse has been a powerhouse for the Giants through the regular season, but Ishikawa is on a huge roll. Both have to worry about the fact that noodle-bat Juan Perez can play left-field like a champ and has the advantage of having a surname starting with “P”. This is apparently a huge thing in the Giants organization.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/773 "2014-10-17T13:55:10Z")

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I was at AT&T last night, 3 rows from the field and on the aisle. It was great! What a party scene, everyone high-fiving each other. When Ishikawa hit his Wacha-Walkoff, I was the first to the front row on the stairs, at the rail, and the celebration went on and on. I lost my voice, yelling so much.

With me was a coworker from St. Louis. He’s really a Cubs fan. He wore a Cubs jersey and a Cardinals hat - something he’d never do in the midwest. It was his first time at AT&T and he thought it was a gem of a park (it is, the best in all of baseball). He didn’t enjoy the game, though, but that’s okay. He did get a lot of love from some Giants fans who love the Cubs.

Sitting nearby were two ladies in Giants jerseys, and one had a 2002 World Series patch on hers. Earlier in the game we talked and remembered that misery and pain, especially Game 6, up 3 games to 2, 7th inning and leading 5-0 with only 8 outs left to win the Series; then Dusty pulling Ortiz to bring in Felix, and as Russ Ortiz walks to the dugout Dusty stops him and gives him the ball as a souvenir, what he thinks will be a World Series winning game ball. And they’re in Angels Stadium – OUCH. The Giants imploded, the Angels rallied, that stupid eff-ing rally monkey went wild… Oh the pain, the pain. It still hurts.

The Giants have a tough challenge in facing the red-hot Royals, but we’ve got Bochy, the best manager in all of baseball. He’s like a chess grand master, making all the right moves.

\*\*\*GO GIANTS!!!

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/774 "2014-10-17T14:49:41Z")

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> [@nachtmusick](#):
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> So who will Bochy start in left field in the World Series? Ishikawa the hero who launched them into the World Series, or Mike Morse the hero who launched them into the World Series?
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> Neither can play left field for shit, so that’s not a consideration.
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> Morse has been a powerhouse for the Giants through the regular season, but Ishikawa is on a huge roll. Both have to worry about the fact that noodle-bat Juan Perez can play left-field like a champ and has the advantage of having a surname starting with “P”. This is apparently a huge thing in the Giants organization.

Bochy has a rule: Hit a home run, and you’re in the lineup for the next game. 🙂

Rules aside, Ishikawa has played well in left these last 10 games. Yes, he badly misplayed that one ball last night, but overall he’s been solid…there were several balls that he ran down that Morse would never have reached simply due to having no speed whatsoever.

Also, there’s the old adage, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. They’ve made it this far with Ishikawa as their starting left fielder; I’d be shocked if anything changes for the World Series. Morse will be the DH for Games 1 and 2, which is probably the ‘correct’ position for him to play. Perez will be the late-inning defensive replacement/right-handed pinch hitter.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/775 "2014-10-17T19:30:18Z")

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Ishikawa’s a decent outfielder, despite the error, and is incomparably better than Morse.

Bobby Thomson  
Bill Mazeroski  
Chris Chambliss  
Joe Carter  
Todd Pratt  
Aaron Boone  
David Ortiz  
Chris Burke  
Magglio Ordonez  
Travis Ishikawa

Everyone who’s ever ended a series with a homer. It’s one way to become immortal.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/776 "2014-10-17T19:32:53Z")

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His first few pre-season games with the Giants, Morse was absolutely horrible in the outfield. I suggest DHing him in Kansas City.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/777 "2014-10-17T20:14:14Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Ishikawa’s a decent outfielder, despite the error, and is incomparably better than Morse.
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> Bobby Thomson  
> Bill Mazeroski  
> Chris Chambliss  
> Joe Carter  
> Todd Pratt  
> Aaron Boone  
> David Ortiz  
> Chris Burke  
> Magglio Ordonez  
> Travis Ishikawa
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> Everyone who’s ever ended a series with a homer. It’s one way to become immortal.

I like to rank these in terms of drama, with the highest ranking being for a walk-off HR in Game 7, with bonus points for reversing the score (trailing at the time). Mazeroski’s was Game 7, but broke a tie. Thomson’s was the equivalent of a Game 7 – game 3 of a tie-breaker playoff, and the Giants were trailing at the time. All of the others (I believe) came in Game 6’s or earlier.

So The Ultimate Walk-off: trailing in the 9th inning of Game 7 of a World Series – hasn’t happened yet.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/778 "2014-10-17T20:30:41Z")

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Chris Hoiles hit the ONLY “cliche” HR in history. Cliche=walk-off grand slam, off a payoff pitch, to win a 1-run game.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/779 "2014-10-17T20:48:53Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Chris Hoiles hit the ONLY “cliche” HR in history. Cliche=walk-off grand slam, off a payoff pitch, to win a 1-run game.

Why is that the cliche?

I would have thought it would have been grand slam off payoff pitch to win a THREE run game?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-post-season/699860/780 "2014-10-17T21:03:25Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Cliche=walk-off grand slam, off a payoff pitch, to win a 1-run game.

Where did this definition of “cliche” come from?

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