# MLB: Postseason 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 30, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030 "2015-09-30T13:04:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/461 "2015-10-15T14:11:25Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> On the Choo play, I haven’t dug into the rulebook this morning, but what would constitute interference on the throw from the catcher to the pitcher? If Choo’s bat was over home plate? Out of the batter’s box? Anything as long as it looked intentional?

I think from what the announcers were saying, if he’s in the batter’s box, it’s not interference unless the umpire thinks it’s intentional. I take from that the thought that if he’s not in the batter’s box, his intent doesn’t matter? Not sure about that, but it would make some sense.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/462 "2015-10-16T01:55:50Z")

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We had another dopey live-ball play on the Dodger game sending runner to third then scoring on a sac fly. :rolleyes:

Great game so far though. Still have no clue who’s taking this one.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/463 "2015-10-16T02:27:11Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> We had another dopey live-ball play on the Dodger game sending runner to third then scoring on a sac fly. :rolleyes:

Dopey Dodgers, I assume you mean–neglecting to have anyone watching third base with runners on.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/464 "2015-10-16T03:14:24Z")

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I take some small comfort in knowing that global warming will render all of New York City uninhabitable by 2030. Fucking hippies.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/465 "2015-10-16T03:37:06Z")

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Well now, the Cubs can extract a little revenge [for 1969.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Chicago_Cubs_season)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/466 "2015-10-16T03:39:43Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> Dopey Dodgers, I assume you mean–neglecting to have anyone watching third base with runners on.

And it turns out, THAT play-- plus the next one as a sac fly brings him home-- is how the Mets win. Dodgers bats? Donde?

They might’ve we’ll have swung wet fettuccine at the ball instead of bats. Did you see the last two batters (Ellis & Kendrick)?? They were swinging weak at pitches in the ground.

But I’m still all Cubs! (I thought the Dodgers would be an easier beat! :D)

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/467 "2015-10-16T03:51:42Z")

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Fuck!

Well I really don’t care who wins the NLCS as long as they end up winning the world series.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/468 "2015-10-16T03:52:38Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I take some small comfort in knowing that global warming will render all of New York City uninhabitable by 2030. Fucking hippies.

YOU GOTTA BELIEVE

…besides, if any town is going to choke on its own waste products, it’s  
LA.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/469 "2015-10-16T04:06:37Z")

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It really didn’t feel like the Mets deserved to win that game. DeGrom pitched pretty poorly, but scattered his baserunners and got out of just enough trouble; Greinke pitched very well, but the Mets scratched out a few runs. In the end the box scores looks unremarkable and fairly even, but it just felt like LA was in control the whole way.

I like that they went to Syndergaard in relief, but it’s troubling that they felt they had to: outside of Familia and Clippard the bullpen is bad, and I only _kinda_ trust Clippard.

Familia was and is awesome, though. He’s objectively a better pitcher than he used to be, adding that unhittable splitter this year, mid-90s with a sharp downward break. I’m sure they won’t do it, but I wouldn’t mind him getting another look as a starter.

Daniel Murphy was responsible for all three Mets runs. It’s nice having him on the team. I hope they can bring him back on a reasonable contract this offseason, but I’m guessing any deal he signs will be too expensive. Anyone want to take a guess at what his eventual contract will be? ([stats](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda08.shtml))  
Bring on the Cubs!

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/470 "2015-10-16T04:08:54Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/471 "2015-10-16T04:10:22Z")

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All I know is that the Dodgers were playing great ball. Then Mattingly and Ethier get into a major shouting match in the dugout right after Turner steals third. From that moment, the whole happy “we’re gonna win this” vibe evaporated. Nobody looked the same after that. When Murphy stole 3rd, then scored, we were mentally done.

I sincerely hope I just watched Mattingly’s last game as a Dodger.

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**Author:** ![from\_a\_to\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@from\_a\_to\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/from_a_to_z)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/472 "2015-10-16T04:25:00Z")

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Congrats to the Mets. Question: Why didn’t Ethier let d’Arnaud’s 4th inning fly drop foul? When he caught it, it allowed the Mets to tie the score. The fly didn’t look to me like it would drift fair.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/473 "2015-10-16T04:42:22Z")

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My recollection is that it was caught in fair territory, but I don’t have it DVR’ed and might be misremembering.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/474 "2015-10-16T04:43:41Z")

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> [@Club\_33](#):
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> All I know is that the Dodgers were playing great ball. Then Mattingly and Ethier get into a major shouting match in the dugout right after Turner steals third. From that moment, the whole happy “we’re gonna win this” vibe evaporated. Nobody looked the same after that. When Murphy stole 3rd, then scored, we were mentally done.
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> I sincerely hope I just watched Mattingly’s last game as a Dodger.

I was wondering about this too. What the hell was that about? I figured Don dissed his rant because of elimination-game jitters.

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/475 "2015-10-16T04:48:26Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I was wondering about this too. What the hell was that about? I figured Don dissed his rant because of elimination-game jitters.

According to Mattingly, Ethier was mad at the umpire and Donny was just trying to calm him down so he didn’t get kicked out of the game. Not sure I buy it but that’s the official line thus far.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/476 "2015-10-16T04:50:34Z")

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Wait. here’s the story on the Ethier Rant: Apparently Ethier was pissed at the ump call.

> **[Why did Andre Ethier scream at Don Mattingly in dugout?](https://www.nj.com/mets/2015/10/why_did_los_angeles_dodgers_andre_ethier_scream_at.html)**
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> Ethier and Mattingly appeared to get into a shouting match in the third inning

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/477 "2015-10-16T05:06:18Z")

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Whoop! Crossed posts!

Either way I am sorry, I’ve watched the Dodgers season out here again and they do not swing the damn bat enough. Kendrick looked absolutely like he was on acid on the last at bat. Even so, there were plenty of RISP, and Dodgers pitching was much better than I expected. Mattingly also seemed stoned on acid.

Overall, just an unexciting end to a great series.

Note to Cubs: Pitch around Murphy. 😉

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**Author:** ![from\_a\_to\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@from\_a\_to\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/from_a_to_z)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/478 "2015-10-16T05:36:32Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> My recollection is that it was caught in fair territory, but I don’t have it DVR’ed and might be misremembering.

The video is [here](http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/94767086/v523357883/must-c-crafty-murphy-takes-two-bases-on-walk-scores), at 0:48. Ethier could drop it in foul territory.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/479 "2015-10-16T05:40:07Z")

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> [@from\_a\_to\_z](#):
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> Congrats to the Mets. Question: Why didn’t Ethier let d’Arnaud’s 4th inning fly drop foul? When he caught it, it allowed the Mets to tie the score. The fly didn’t look to me like it would drift fair.

It was the 4th inning. That early in the game, you get the sure out.

If it had been the 7th, then you might let it drop, but at that point in the game, that was the correct play. Especially with Grienke on the mound, and DeGrom looking shaky.

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**Author:** ![from\_a\_to\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@from\_a\_to\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/from_a_to_z)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/480 "2015-10-16T06:31:20Z")

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Thx. In any case, the Dodgers did get the sure out.

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