# MLB: Postseason 2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 30, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030 "2015-09-30T13:04:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/521 "2015-10-17T22:46:07Z")
Those five-run innings are a pisser. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/522 "2015-10-17T22:46:56Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > Followed closely by the Price they weren’t so thrilled about. Yeah. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/523 "2015-10-17T22:52:30Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Yeah. ☹ A shame; he had pitched so well. Felt to me like both starting pitchers were left in a little long. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/524 "2015-10-17T23:30:33Z")
Price was around 75 pitches going into the seventh. You can’t really take a star pitcher out at that point. Unfortunately, he completely went to pieces after the non-error by Goins. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/525 "2015-10-17T23:40:44Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Price was around 75 pitches going into the seventh. You can’t really take a star pitcher out at that point. Unfortunately, he completely went to pieces after the non-error by Goins. Oh, I wouldn’t have taken him out at the start of the seventh by any means. But following four hits in five batters, with the lead gone and a man on second and a RH hitter coming up, I would’ve pulled him. (Easy to say in retrospect, I know…especially since it was the lefty, Gordon, who did the damage rather than the RH hitter, Perez.) They do say that third time through the order is tricky for a starting pitcher. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/526 "2015-10-18T00:39:50Z")
Well that was certainly disappointing, but there are still 5 games to be played. I haven’t given up hope. Price was perfect and then fell apart. Stroman and Dickey will win the next two. Predicted here first. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/527 "2015-10-18T01:37:49Z")
Man, what a battle. The series between the Royals and Jays right after the trade deadline was such a great precursor to this ALCS. Great pitching and defense against an amazing offensive lineup is such a grab bag. I’m not sure how Price fell apart so suddenly, but it gave the Royals a chance to show off their offense as well. From 1 through 9, everyone is a threat to contribute. Toronto is going to prove extremely tough during their homestand, and we’ll see exactly what sort of effect that crowd will have when Cueto takes the mound, who seems pretty susceptible to a hostile environment. Royals in 5. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/528 "2015-10-18T03:21:16Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Man, what a battle. The series between the Royals and Jays right after the trade deadline was such a great precursor to this ALCS. Great pitching and defense against an amazing offensive lineup is such a grab bag. I’m not sure how Price fell apart so suddenly, but it gave the Royals a chance to show off their offense as well. From 1 through 9, everyone is a threat to contribute. Toronto is going to prove extremely tough during their homestand, and we’ll see exactly what sort of effect that crowd will have when Cueto takes the mound, who seems pretty susceptible to a hostile environment. Royals in 5. Cueto hasn’t even started yet. I love the Cubs, but, man, losing to the Mets’ll be a lot more palatable knowing we’d likely get plunked by the Royals. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/529 "2015-10-18T17:43:25Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > Nope. Rule 10.14e > e) No error shall be charged against any fielder who permits a foul fly to fall safe with a runner on third base before two are out, if in the scorer’s judgment the fielder deliberately refuses the catch in order that the runner on third shall not score after the catch. Read what I said: “If Ethier had camped under the ball and dropped it” not, as you assume, “If Ethier had let the ball drop.” The former is an error and that rule doesn’t apply. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/530 "2015-10-18T17:47:21Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Oh, back in the 50s Mickey Mantle and the Yankees never wsdfsdf okay actually can’t finish the sentence. Players in the 60s did not celebrate on the field except maybe for the final out of the World Series or a no-hitter. It was extremely rare to see in a game. Nowadays, it’s pretty common. I blame football. Players in the 60s never celebrated a routine touchdown. The rule was “play like you’ve been there before.” Now when I watch them crossing the goal and just letting the ball drop before going off the field, I find that far cooler than any sort of dance. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/531 "2015-10-19T00:27:49Z")
Daniel Murphy is on another planet right now. And Arrieta seems to have lost his magic. ---
**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/532 "2015-10-19T00:51:00Z")
Cubbies are playing. You tuned in **Asimovian**? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/533 "2015-10-19T03:39:22Z")
I suspect Toronto will force the series back to KC. To be honest I am still a little disoriented at the fact Toronto is in the ALCS. Tomorrow after we vote we plan to walk to the neighbourhood bar and watch the Jays play for the American League pennant. I’m not sure I’m not dreaming. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/534 "2015-10-19T08:47:59Z")
KC is looking just like they did last year, kicking ass for the sake of kicking ass. The Cubs are pissing me off beyond belief with the damn bats, or lack thereof. Snydergaard is a fantastic pitcher, and they should know how fantastic. The Mets had no problem figuring out how awesome Arrieta is/was and hit around him. No matter how good your pitcher is, be prepared to score 5 or more runs against the other guy, who’s probably as good as your guy. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/535 "2015-10-20T04:15:31Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > That was a truly amateurish at bat. Tulowitzski is obviously hurt to the point they’d be better off with Pennington playing in his place and Kawasaki on the roster. God bless him but his shoulder is messed up. Pennington and Kawasaki are quadruple A players but they’re better than this. > > I mean I am not overreacting to them losing Game 1; hell, the way they come back it barely bothers me and theyd have lost with Honus Wagner at short. Tulo was awful in the ALDS too, despite the home run, and you can see his shoulder bothers him. He’s sixty percent at best, and sixty percent makes him maybe the 65th best player in the Jays organization. Hey RickJay, could you please work your magic on David Price next? Tulo’s gone nuts since this rant. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/536 "2015-10-20T13:13:49Z")
And that’s the Johnny Cueto KC has come to know and fear. I guess Ned just needs to only pitch him in Kaufman, where people won’t be mean to him. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/537 "2015-10-20T13:42:58Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Hey RickJay, could you please work your magic on David Price next? Tulo’s gone nuts since this rant. 😃 RA Dickey sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/538 "2015-10-20T18:48:43Z")
So apparently the reason why the Jays rocked Cueto so hard last night was that they were stealing signs from the centre-field bleachers. :dubious: Too bad we forgot to do that in Games 1 and 2 in the ALDS. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/539 "2015-10-20T19:25:08Z")
Accusation of the Jays stealing signs is not new. And to be honest, it would be most effective against a guy like Cueto, who doesn’t have unhittable stuff, he just does a great job mixing it up. Not saying I believe it, but if there was a guy in the outfield passing along signs, that’s BS and shouldn’t happen. If someone on the playing field (e.g. a runner on 2nd base) is passing along signs, that’s part of the game and pitcher/catcher need to do a better job of disguising signs. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/540 "2015-10-20T19:39:07Z")
Yeah, I think that it goes back as far as when the Jays had the likes of Vernon Wells and Alex Rios patrolling the outfield. Maybe the media should track down one of those guys and ask if there’s anything to it. Oh wait. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030.md?page=28)