# MLB: Postseason 2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 30, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030 "2015-09-30T13:04:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/41 "2015-10-01T21:35:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I am willing to agree it may be that Greinke’s getting more groundball and flyball outs might not be a sustainable thing, but in point of fact he absolutely DID get more > groundball and flyball outs _and he had the same fielders behind him_. Anyway I doubt the voters will give anyone the Cy on that basis. The argument may have been while he had the same fielders behind him (for the most part), his numbers are indeed different. Kershaw’s FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching) is lower than Greinke and there are some writers, who while don’t ONLY go by the Three True Outcomes, may feel that the lower FIP may ‘break a tie’ so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/42 "2015-10-01T23:17:56Z")
If it wasn’t October, this Yankee-Red Sox game wouldn’t even have been started. One of the announcers brought up an interesting question: the forecast for Baltimore (where the Yankees close the season) calls for rain, rain, and rain. Maybe they’ll have to play a triple-header on Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/43 "2015-10-02T00:13:49Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Incidentally, as a Blue Jays fan I am wholeheartedly in favour of Dallas Keuchel as the AL choice for Cy. David Price was great, but… he only pitched in a third of a season for the team that mattered. It seems weird to give the Cy to a guy split between two teams that played against each other. Weird, but the award is for the best pitcher in the league, and if he happened to pitch for two teams, well that’s how it is. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/44 "2015-10-02T02:00:02Z")
Am I crazy to believe that the Jays are making a big mistake in not making a serious push for the AL lead? They’ve basically ceded their 2 game lead over the Royals for the sake of a party and they’ve decided to shut down Price until the ALDS. It seems like that could hurt a poor road team in a close series against KC. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/45 "2015-10-02T02:15:54Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > Why would you only look at the last 18 starts? I think because he was comparing him to Arrieta who has mostly been a second half performance. I don’t remember exactly now, I think it was the best stretch of consecutive innings under a certain benchmark Era in 40 years or something, and the longest stretch of dominance by any of them this season. Go listen to the first 5 minutes of the podcast. I doing a piss poor job. It’s an interesting argument. Kershaw has better strikeout and walk numbers and better fip and War over the season than any of the candidates. Greinke has been the most consistent. Arrieta has recency and wins. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/46 "2015-10-02T02:19:14Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t understand it either. It’s the 2015 Cy Young Award, not the June To September Of 2015 Cy Young Award. > > In other Cy Young Award news, the Blue Jays have announced David Price will not pitch again until the playoffs, a decision I admit surprises the hell out of me. That gives Keuchel a bit more of an edge. > > I am struggling to understand why anyone would vote for Kershaw over Greinke. They play on the SAME TEAM, so it’s not like there is any contextual difference. Kershaw has pitched 15 more innings but has allowed fifteen more earned runs and five more unearned runs. When Greinke pitches the Dodgers give up fewer runs and win more. How isn’t he the better pitcher? > > If you want to argue Jake Arrieta is better than Greinke at least we can argue over park effects and stuff. Kershaw pitched more innings and Greinke had fewer inherited runners score. He also never pitched a 4th time through the order and both Kershaw and Arrieta did. Dave Cameron wrote about that on fangraphs a few days ago. I am actually in favor of Greinke, but there is a good argument to be made for all three. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/47 "2015-10-02T02:29:09Z")
Dave Cameron thinking out loud about his [NL Cy Young vote](http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/looking-for-more-cy-young-separators/). ---
**Author:** ![BeeGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BeeGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeeGee)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/48 "2015-10-02T03:29:05Z")
Thank you, Shawn Tolleson ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/49 "2015-10-02T11:50:45Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Am I crazy to believe that the Jays are making a big mistake in not making a serious push for the AL lead? They’ve basically ceded their 2 game lead over the Royals for the sake of a party and they’ve decided to shut down Price until the ALDS. It seems like that could hurt a poor road team in a close series against KC. They’re not a poor road team. Prior to Trade Week, they were. Since then they’re 17-8. I’d like them to have home field too, and I am not totally sold on this shutting Price down thing, but they still have a one game lead (having the same record is effectively that) with three to go and plan on otherwise playing the regulars. Taking the second game of the doubleheader off made perfect sense and in retrospect, with the ridiculous rain delay, Thursday was not going to be a great day to risk injury either. I will say that I would not be willing to risk injury for what amounts to an advantage in exactly one game that has maybe a 10% chance of ever actually happening. This scenario matters only if Toronto AND Kansas City make the ALCS AND it goes seven games AND you really believe Toronto is a substantially worse team on the road, which is a dubious claim, overall record be damned. It’s a pretty thin concern. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/50 "2015-10-02T11:59:45Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Am I crazy to believe that the Jays are making a big mistake in not making a serious push for the AL lead? They’ve basically ceded their 2 game lead over the Royals for the sake of a party and they’ve decided to shut down Price until the ALDS. It seems like that could hurt a poor road team in a close series against KC. The Royals put up the same hangover lineup the day after they clinched as well. Give the starters a chance to go out and enjoy their moment - they earned it. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/51 "2015-10-02T18:36:46Z")
… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/52 "2015-10-02T20:54:53Z")
Yankees and Orioles are postponed already. (As well as Philly and NY Mets.) For anyone who cares, all games on [MLB.TV](http://MLB.TV) are free games today. ---
**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/53 "2015-10-02T22:09:20Z")
Does anyone know if Postseason TV is being offered this year? I’m not finding how to sign up. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/54 "2015-10-03T11:59:12Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Yankees and Orioles are postponed already. (As well as Philly and NY Mets.) > > For anyone who cares, all games on [MLB.TV](http://MLB.TV) are free games today. They scheduled a day/night doubleheadee for the Yankees vs. Orioles today, with the first game starting at noon. This is weirdly optimistic as it’s supposed to rain all day and into the late evening in Baltimore. Not to mention that the geounds must be thoroughly soaked already. And apropos of nothing, [Kevin Pillar as Superman](http://i.imgur.com/9gqssUc.gifv) last night in Tampa. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/55 "2015-10-03T13:42:05Z")
They have to go through the motions of trying to get in all games that can still matter for postseason positioning, and there’s very little time left. I expect a lot of people are quietly hoping the Astros lose in Arizona. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/56 "2015-10-03T15:39:38Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > They scheduled a day/night doubleheadee for the Yankees vs. Orioles today, with the first game starting at noon. This is weirdly optimistic as it’s supposed to rain all day and into the late evening in Baltimore. They don’t want to refund tickets except as a very last resort. Yes, that sometimes gets comical. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/57 "2015-10-03T16:55:15Z")
They are in progress in Baltimore, Orioles up by 2. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/58 "2015-10-03T17:52:56Z")
Yep, forecast changed completely overnight. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/59 "2015-10-04T01:14:03Z")
Scherzer needs 3 more outs for another no-hitter, against the Mets. If we can get him a Bobby Valentine disguise, maybe we can sneak him onto the Dodgers’ postseason roster. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030/60 "2015-10-04T01:25:35Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > Scherzer needs 3 more outs for another no-hitter, against the Mets. If we can get him a Bobby Valentine disguise, maybe we can sneak him onto the Dodgers’ postseason roster. And he did it. Wow. 17 strikeouts, including 9 of the last 10 batters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-postseason-2015/733030.md?page=4)