# MLB: September 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 1, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832 "2011-09-01T12:18:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/161 "2011-09-29T04:07:17Z")

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longoria! epic night.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/162 "2011-09-29T04:07:28Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> HOLY SHIT!!! LONGORIA HOMERS! RAYS WIN! SOX CHOKE!

Wow!

My MLB must have been dcelayed by a little bit, because i saw your post about 10 seconds before Longoria hit his homer.

What a night of baseball.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/163 "2011-09-29T04:09:23Z")

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So we get

**TB in Tex  
Det in NYY  
STL in Phi  
Ari in Mlw**

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/164 "2011-09-29T04:09:41Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> What a night of baseball.

I know things have changed a lot since I used to settle down on weekend afternoons to listen to Tony Kubek and Joe Garargiola, but still . . .

What a night of baseball.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/165 "2011-09-29T04:16:19Z")

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Red Sox went 7-20 in September.

They were 9 games ahead of the Rays on September 3.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/166 "2011-09-29T04:18:33Z")

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Everyone who said the Red Sox were doomed after a 0-6 start was right!

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/167 "2011-09-29T04:53:50Z")

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I’m beginning to realize that “you” were not, in fact, “kidding me.” Wow.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/168 "2011-09-29T11:30:04Z")

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I’m much happier getting Detroit in the short round. Verlander v. CC Friday night. I can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/169 "2011-09-29T11:31:24Z")

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Well, at least with the Braves collapse I can sit back and think fondly of my late grandfather, who in October would curse the Braves when they would inevitably lose in the postseason.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/170 "2011-09-29T11:35:01Z")

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What a crazy night of baseball. I can’t wait for the post season to start.

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**Author:** ![AbloyProtec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@AbloyProtec](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AbloyProtec)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/171 "2011-09-29T11:38:22Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Well, at least with the Braves collapse I can sit back and think fondly of my late grandfather, who in October would curse the Braves when they would inevitably lose in the postseason.

I grew up in that era - and had my heart shattered year after year.

Also, I was completely wrong when I said, just a week ago on the SD, that the Braves were still going to make the post season. I don’t know what happened, but I was definitely wrong. Congratulations St. Louis.

With that said, I’m rooting for Tampa Bay.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/172 "2011-09-29T11:43:00Z")

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Hey, at least the Braves got one World Series in that stretch.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/173 "2011-09-29T13:13:03Z")

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Now that the Indians are out of it I will root for Detroit. They have earned it.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/174 "2011-09-29T13:49:23Z")

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From a Yankee perspective:

Oh crap! We blew a 7-0 lead!  
Hooray! It screws the Red Sox!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/175 "2011-09-29T14:18:40Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Red Sox went 7-20 in September.
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> They were 9 games ahead of the Rays on September 3.

A truly impressive choke.

In stacking this up against 1978, my thoughts go like this:

1. In terms of the raw numbers, 2011 wins. The ‘78 Sox’ slide from 84-47 to 87-61 was ‘only’ a 3-14 run: 11 games under .500 rather than 13 during the critical stretch.

2. However, the 1978 collapse was more consequential: it was for the division championship back in the pre-wildcard days. It’s hard (for me, anyway) to attach quite the same importance to a collapse in the _wild-card_ race; OK, so you blew your chance to be \*second-\*best. Not quite the same.

3. It’s also harder to feel bad for a team that won 90 but didn’t make the playoffs, as compared with winning 99 and being shut out of the postseason. The best argument for a wild card in baseball is that 99 wins (1978 Red Sox) or 100 (1980 Orioles) or 103 (1993 Giants) ought to get you _something_. But 90 or 91? Meh.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/176 "2011-09-29T14:29:21Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Wow!
> 
> My MLB must have been dcelayed by a little bit, because i saw your post about 10 seconds before Longoria hit his homer.
> 
> What a night of baseball.

ESPN was carrying the game in most markets. I kept flipping from ESPN to YES (Yankees) and I imagine many others had ways to track both games live.

> [@Hawkeyeop](#):
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> So we get
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> **TB in Tex  
> Det in NYY  
> STL in Phi  
> Ari in Mlw**

I know the Yanks have the first 2 night games so Friday & Saturday at 8pm on TBS for Det @ NYY apparently.

> [@mhendo](#):
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> Red Sox went 7-20 in September.
> 
> They were 9 games ahead of the Rays on September 3.

The Braves held the record for worst collapse for about 30 minutes. What a remarkable night.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> From a Yankee perspective:
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> Oh crap! We blew a 7-0 lead!  
> Hooray! It screws the Red Sox!

I think most Yankee fan knew that the game was pretty close to Spring training (let’s call it Fall Training) for the Yanks and blowing the lead meant very little.

I also do believe most Yankee fans agree with the “Hooray! It screws the Red Sox!”

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/177 "2011-09-29T14:30:44Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I also do believe most Yankee fans agree with the “Hooray! It screws the Red Sox!”

Similar feeling for an Astros fan with respect to the Braves. It would have been nice to have played something other than the doormat, but at least the Braves are suffering.

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**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/178 "2011-09-29T14:41:19Z")

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Considering the timing, you would almost wonder whether Proctor served it up to keep the Sox out. On the flip side, you’ve got a hot Rays team playing with nothing to lose.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/179 "2011-09-29T14:53:13Z")

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> [@Mixolydian](#):
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> Considering the timing, you would almost wonder whether Proctor served it up to keep the Sox out.

Except that Proctor pitched pretty well for more than 2 innings before giving up the homer. And it wasn’t exactly a no-doubter. It went to the shortest fence in the park, and can’t have been more than a few feet over the wall.

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**Author:** ![AbloyProtec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@AbloyProtec](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AbloyProtec)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2011/594832/180 "2011-09-29T15:56:06Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Similar feeling for an Astros fan with respect to the Braves. It would have been nice to have played something other than the doormat, but at least the Braves are suffering.

I didn’t know Houston fans didn’t like us?

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