# MLB: September 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [September 3, 2023, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543 "2023-09-03T10:51:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/41 "2023-09-18T15:58:34Z")
Rays staying put in St Petersburg? > **[Report: Rays complete deal for St. Pete stadium](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38430468/report-rays-complete-deal-new-stadium-st-petersburg)** > > The Rays are expected to announce the completion of a deal for a new stadium in St. Petersburg, Florida, on Tuesday, according to a report by the Tampa Bay Times. I remember that stadium was a long long way away from my hotel in Tampa last time I was in that area. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/42 "2023-09-19T17:04:21Z")
For a tiny bright spot in an otherwise dismal season, Cardinal veteran pitcher Adam Wainwright finally earned his 200th career win. Wainwright, who had been battling injuries and had announced this was his last season, mixed a combination of fast balls in the mid-80s and curves that sometimes dipped below 70 mph for seven shutout innings against the Brewers. > **[Cardinals great Adam Wainwright wills his way to 200th win. 'For tonight, I...](https://www.stltoday.com/sports/professional/mlb/cardinals/cardinals-great-adam-wainwright-wills-his-way-to-200th-win-for-tonight-i-was-me/article_481513c4-564d-11ee-a901-87a2aeaeedea.html#tracking-source=home-top-story)** > > 'It’s kind of meant to be,' says teammate after veteran throws seven scoreless innings in taut 1-0 victory against the Milwaukee Brewers at Busch Stadium. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/43 "2023-09-19T22:39:39Z")
Shohei Ohtani had elbow surgery on Tuesday, and his doctor states that he’s looking to be available as a DH for 2024 and return to pitching in 2025. > **[Ohtani has elbow procedure; set to just hit in '24](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38441820/los-angeles-angels-shohei-ohtani-elbow-procedure)** > > Shohei Ohtani had elbow surgery Tuesday, and his doctor said he expects the Angels' two-way star will be available as a hitter on opening day next season and will return to the mound as a pitcher in 2025. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/44 "2023-09-20T01:08:03Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I remember that stadium was a long long way away from my hotel in Tampa last time I was in that area. I can’t believe this. They’re putting it in the SAME PLACE? (The proposed site is basically next door to Tropicana.) Why? The location is utterly horrible. This is insane. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/45 "2023-09-20T13:10:42Z")
Last night Ronald Acuña Jr. of the Braves hit his 39th home run. He is now one homer and 3 stolen bases short of a 40/70 season, which has never been done. In fact, only four players have had 40/40 seasons: Jose Canseco, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez and Alfonso Soriano. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/46 "2023-09-20T16:20:14Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > only four players have had 40/40 seasons: Jose Canseco, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez and Alfonso Soriano. Are we not counting Dave Kingman’s 48/45 season in 1979? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/47 "2023-09-20T16:58:26Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Are we not counting Dave Kingman’s 48/45 season in 1979? According to [Baseball Reference](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kingmda01.shtml), Kingman had 48 homers in 1979, but just 4 stolen bases. He did have 45 bases on balls. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/48 "2023-09-20T19:55:42Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I am not entirely sure why the Mariners get the shortest end of the stick. They ARE currently on the outside, but by half a game behind a team they hold the tiebreaker with. Most likely the remaining schedule Of the final 10 games of the season, the Mariners face the Rangers 7 times and the Astros 3 times Of the final 10 games of the season, the Rangers face the Mariners 7 times and the Angels 3 times Of the final 10 games of the season, the Astros face the Royals 3 times, the Mariners 3 times, the Diamondbacks 3 times, and they’re playing the Orioles right now. On paper, at least, this sets up the Astros best to either win the division outright or be in good position for a wildcard and for the Rangers to have an edge with 7 common games against the Mariners plus the weaker opponent for the remaining 3 games (facing the Angels rather than the Astros). ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/49 "2023-09-20T22:21:57Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > He did have 45 bases on balls. Yeah, that was a bit of a joke. Kingman was a big slow oaf who hit monster home runs, struck out when he didn’t, and rarely walked. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/50 "2023-09-21T00:26:08Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Yeah, that was a bit of a joke. Kingman was a big slow oaf who hit monster home runs, struck out when he didn’t, and rarely walked. Kingman was such a clumsy fielder than Richie Ashburn said of him, “The ball fell among Dave Kingman.” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/51 "2023-09-21T01:43:04Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Kingman was a big slow oaf who hit monster home runs, struck out when he didn’t, and rarely walked. Again, according to the Baseball Reference page I linked earlier, Kingman averaged 51 walks per 162 games. That’s not quite one walk every 3 games. Not sure that classifies as ‘rarely’, but YMMV. Back to the AL West and Wild Card races, today the Astros, Rangers, and Mariners all won their games. Toronto leads the Yanks 3-0 in the ninth. Assuming the Jays hold on to win, they will have a one game wild-card lead on both Texas and Seattle, who will both be 1/2 game behind Houston in the West. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/52 "2023-09-22T14:45:53Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > On paper, at least, this sets up the Astros best to either win the division outright or be in good position for a wildcard and for the Rangers to have an edge with 7 common games against the Mariners plus the weaker opponent for the remaining 3 games (facing the Angels rather than the Astros). I’m hoping the M’s step it up to close out the season against the Rangers and Astros. And, I hope Toronto lose lose lose against the Yankees and Rays. 1/2 game between these four teams with one division winner and two remaining wild cards left. 😲 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/53 "2023-09-22T15:25:38Z")
I came across this on my twitter timeline today. Holy cow - how little they knew what they were about to see! (Also, I have no memory of Maddux on the Dodgers. Or, now that I’ve looked at his b-ref page, the Padres?!) > ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/54 "2023-09-22T17:27:40Z")
The Padres and Dodgers both came after Maddux’s second stint with the Cubs. He was traded to LA for Cesar Izturus, and signed with San Diego after that season. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/55 "2023-09-22T19:52:26Z")
i knew they would but it was such a slow start … Heres my question for the thread …if you’re the gm of LA do you still go after Othani? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/56 "2023-09-22T20:04:47Z")
Of course. But I imagine that his agent isn’t going to give you an easy time of it. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/57 "2023-09-23T03:08:30Z")
Tonight the Rangers beat the Mariners, the Astros lost to the Royals, and the Blue Jays beat the Rays. Texas has moved into the lead in the West, 1/2 a game ahead of Houston and 1 full game ahead of Seattle. In the WC race, Toronto is a game ahead of the Astros, while the Mariners are 1/2 game behind Houston. Houston has lost 3 of 4 games to Kansas City in the past week. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/58 "2023-09-23T03:16:53Z")
The Brewers thumped the Marlins, 16-1 tonight, powered by a 12-run second inning. Christian Yelich, who had been out for the better part of two weeks with back issues, went 3-for-4 with two home runs and five RBI; first baseman Rowdy Tellez pitched the ninth for Milwaukee, and got a strikeout. With the second-place Cubs, who are fighting for a wild card berth, having also won tonight, the Brewers’ magic number for winning the NL Central is now 1. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/59 "2023-09-23T03:39:57Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > With the second-place Cubs, who are fighting for a wild card berth, having also won tonight, the Brewers’ magic number for winning the NL Central is now 1. Yeah, the Brews have the Division absent a weird miracle. My hope is that my Cubs sweep the Rock, then play the Braves and Brewers, both clinched at that point, well. Our FanGraphs odds of making the playoffs are back over 50% - if not by much. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543/60 "2023-09-23T05:16:39Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I came across this on my twitter timeline today. Holy cow - how little they knew what they were about to see! (Also, I have no memory of Maddux on the Dodgers. Or, now that I’ve looked at his b-ref page, the Padres?!) > > [https://twitter.com/calicojoemlb/status/1705213737173454978?s=46&t=AiLHtA5Wigyk9pEvsLYPaA](https://twitter.com/calicojoemlb/status/1705213737173454978?s=46&t=AiLHtA5Wigyk9pEvsLYPaA) Shirtzer? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2023/989543.md?page=4)