# MLB: September 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [September 1, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570 "2024-09-01T18:13:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/41 "2024-09-12T06:58:25Z")

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Ohtani got home run #47 tonight leading off the bottom of the first inning in the Dodgers’ victory over the Cubs, 10-8.

He’s currently at 47/47.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/42 "2024-09-13T02:27:27Z")

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If I quizzed 100 baseball fans “what’s the highest scoring team in MLB this year?” I bet few would correctly answer the Arizona Diamondbacks. But that’s the answer, and not by a small amount - they’re way ahead. 802 runs so far; no one else has more than 734.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/43 "2024-09-13T03:42:56Z")

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In tonight’s game against the Giants, the Brewers scored a run without getting a hit.

In the top of the 7th, Willy Adames led off with a walk. He went to second on a wild pitch by Giants pitcher Camillo Doval, then went to third on another wild pitch by Doval, and finally scored on Doval’s third wild pitch of the inning.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/44 "2024-09-13T11:48:06Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> the Brewers scored a run without getting a hit.

That happens every now and then. But Adames scored without the ball ever being put in play!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/45 "2024-09-13T11:52:51Z")

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Yanks walk off two consecutive games. In each, Berti scored the winning run despite never having a plate appearance, coming in as a PR in both games.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/46 "2024-09-14T00:38:38Z")

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The Twins have cut their 6th-round draft pick from this year, [catcher Derek Bender](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41238109/sources-twins-cut-derek-bender-catcher-told-opposing-hitters-incoming-pitch), after it was discovered that he was tipping pitches because he apparently wanted his season to be over. The tipping occurred in the game that eliminated his Single A team from playoff contention.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/47 "2024-09-14T08:32:04Z")

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Judge had a 7th inning grandslam to give the Yanks the lead over the Red Sox yesterday. This broke the longest home run drought of his career.

The Yanks held and won and are now 3 games up on Baltimore.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/48 "2024-09-14T12:52:41Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> f I quizzed 100 baseball fans “what’s the highest scoring team in MLB this year?” I bet few would correctly answer the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Likewise, if those 100 baseball fans were quizzed “Which team has the highest run differential?”, I would guess that most would answer the Yankees or perhaps the Phillies or Dodgers. But the correct answer is the Brewers, who have scored 128 more runs than they have allowed. The Yanks are right behind them with +126. (This, of course, could change daily).

In contrast, the White Sox have allowed an astounding 313 more runs than they have scored.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/49 "2024-09-16T19:18:25Z")

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I finally got to the Dome to see a Jays game yesterday. Crisp, well played game on a beautiful summer day, Jays winning 3-2. One thing or another prevented us from going this year.

The 100-level renovations are honestly a bit underwhelming. It’s obvious the main purpose was to divide the lower level into three separate sections that have no access to one another; the ultra-expensive seats right behind the plate, the very expensive first 15 rows or so, and then the still pretty expensive rest of the 100 level. Those “Very expensive” seats are preposterously expensive,

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/50 "2024-09-17T01:06:49Z")

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Ohtani became first player since 1894 to have 85 extra-base hits and 45 stolen bases in a season.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/51 "2024-09-17T03:27:18Z")

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The Brewers beat the Phillies tonight, 6-2, which lowers their magic number for clinching the NL Central to 2, with their 10 game lead over the Cubs.

They’re likely to be the first team to clinch a playoff spot, though they’re currently looking at being the #3 seed, as they’re three games behind Philadelphia and two behind the Dodgers.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/52 "2024-09-17T15:16:45Z")

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Don’t give up hope. The Dodgers will figure out a way to fuck it up before the playoffs start. When Roberts starts floating the idea of Ohtani pitching before next season, things are desperate in the bullpen.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/53 "2024-09-18T09:33:32Z")

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that was my thinking … this is usually when we go on a 9 or 10 game losing streak to barley make the playoffs

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/54 "2024-09-19T03:03:56Z")

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Dumb baseball question, but today Ohtani dashed from first base to second (the catcher tried to pick him off but the ball flew wild,) and then Ohtani proceeded to dash from second to third while the chaos was going on. Why is this credited in the stat sheet as only 1 stolen base instead of 2?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/55 "2024-09-19T03:10:18Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> today Ohtani dashed from first base to second (the catcher tried to pick him off but the ball flew wild,) and then Ohtani proceeded to dash from second to third while the chaos was going on. Why is this credited in the stat sheet as only 1 stolen base instead of 2?

He was scored with a successful steal of second base; he then advanced to third base on what was scored as a throwing error by the catcher.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/56 "2024-09-19T03:14:57Z")

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Gotcha, thanks. I had thought any time someone advances on bases on a ball-wasn’t-hit-by-a-batter situation was considered a steal, but that makes more sense.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/57 "2024-09-19T03:17:04Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I had thought any time someone advances on bases on a ball-wasn’t-hit-by-a-batter situation was considered a steal, but that makes more sense.

Broadly: if the runner would likely have been out, had the defense not screwed up, it’ll nearly always be scored as an error. In such cases, the runner won’t get credit for a hit or a stolen base (depending on situation); however, if the runner is able to score as the result of an error, he does get credit for the run.

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/58 "2024-09-19T03:45:03Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Broadly: if the runner would likely have been out, had the defense not screwed up, it’ll nearly always be scored as an error.

Not quite true. Rule 9.07b says that on a stolen base attempt, the runner gets credit for a stolen base even if the catcher’s throw is wild and he would have been out on a good throw. There is no error charged unless he advances an additional base.

However, rule 9.07f says if the fielder drops catcher’s throw, and the runner otherwise would have been out, then it is an error and no stolen base.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/59 "2024-09-19T03:51:16Z")

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Thank you for the clarification! Looking at the video, it looks like it would have been a close play, even without the throwing error, but that the throw (which was in the dirt) bounced away from the fielder, and that’s what let him take third.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september-2024/1006570/60 "2024-09-19T11:29:14Z")

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Odd double play in the 10th inning of the Yanks-Mariners game last night. The video is out there, but I have a question about it. Julio Rodriguez was on 3rd for the Mariners. The batter struck out, and the bat sailed from his hands down the 3rd base line. Rodriguez stepped (ran) into foul territory to avoid the bat and went pretty far. Austin Wells alertly threw to 3rd to pick off Rodriguez (who was automatic runner to start the inning, btw.)

My question is, wouldn’t Rodriguez have been called out for going into foul territory like that anyway? The play was live (thus the pickoff.) What’s different between that and a runner going out of the basepath?

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