# MLB: September

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 1, 2013, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714 "2013-09-01T05:33:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/41 "2013-09-05T17:19:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Don’t look now, but it seems as though the Yankees are right back in the Wild Card race. With Granderson, Jeter, and A-Roid back in the lineup, it actually has some meat to it. It would be nice to see Rivera get another ring, though the planets have to align themselves for it to happen. The Tampa series in the last week could be the difference.

This idea makes me a bit ill, to be honest, and not just because of generic Yankee hate. The A-Rod controversy was one thing when the Yankees appeared to be out of the playoff hunt. But the idea of him playing through his appeal, winning a ring, and then being able to possibly retire on that note if he chose to while completely avoiding any responsibility for his nonsense just feels wrong in every way.

I have nothing against his teammates, generally, but if there was ever a year for me to root against the Yankess with all of my heart, this is it.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/42 "2013-09-06T02:15:26Z")

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Reds taking care of business against the Cardinals. About to win 3 out of 4 after a marathon 16 inning loss last night…

But now we have to make hay against the Dodgers. I want a good showing against one of the two best NL teams. A REALLY good showing.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/43 "2013-09-07T03:27:35Z")

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Tonight, the Red Sox crushed New York at Yankee Stadium for the second time in two days, scoring nine unanswered runs in two innings to overcome a five run deficit, beating the Yankees, 12-8. Boston has scored 41 runs in three games, including two grand slams, and Will Middlebrooks hit home runs in three consecutive games. September been bery, bery good to the Red Sox.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/44 "2013-09-07T04:13:02Z")

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Well, the Giants still suck, but Yusmeiro Petit has a perfect game going through 8 innings tonight…

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/45 "2013-09-07T04:22:49Z")

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Four of five against good teams when it matters. Hmmm. Don’t know where to put this Reds team. On the cusp or pretending…

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/46 "2013-09-07T04:29:29Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Well, the Giants still suck, but Yusmeiro Petit has a perfect game going through 8 innings tonight…

Gives up a single on 3-2 count with 2 outs in the 9th…

And gets the next batter on a ground ball to short.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/47 "2013-09-07T04:37:10Z")

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Austin Jackson went 3-for-6 with 4 RBI and he wasn’t even the Tigers’ player of the game tonight.

Andy Dirks went 5-for-5 with 4 runs and an RBI tonight, and \*he \*wasn’t even the Tigers’ player of the game.

That honor would go to Omar Infante, who went 5-5, with 6 RBI and 2 runs.

Tigers whooped on the Royals by scoring 16 runs off of 26 hits, and not one of them was a homer.

Good night to be a Tigers fan.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/48 "2013-09-07T05:24:29Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Austin Jackson went 3-for-6 with 4 RBI and he wasn’t even the Tigers’ player of the game tonight.
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> Andy Dirks went 5-for-5 with 4 runs and an RBI tonight, and \*he \*wasn’t even the Tigers’ player of the game.
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> That honor would go to Omar Infante, who went 5-5, with 6 RBI and 2 runs.
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> Tigers whooped on the Royals by scoring 16 runs off of 26 hits, and not one of them was a homer.
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> Good night to be a Tigers fan.

Yeah I was hoping to see them get the record for singles in a game, then dropped my hopes to the NL record, the just the Tigers record. Still missed by one, but a Hell of a game nonetheless. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/49 "2013-09-07T09:03:27Z")

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More injuries for the Dodgers. Capuano with a groin strain. Ryu with a back strain. Kemp likely out for the season now with a hamstring injury. Hopefully the first two are minor or we have some serious pitching issues. It’s not like we can go with a three-man rotation, and neither Fife nor Volquez have the ability to start, IMO.

I still think we’ll take the division without much of a problem, but things are definitely more interesting now.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/50 "2013-09-07T12:42:43Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Boston has scored 41 runs in three games, including two grand slams, and Will Middlebrooks hit home runs in three consecutive games. September been bery, bery good to the Red Sox.

And Koji Uehara has completed a reliever’s perfect game - the last 27 batters to face him have all been out.

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**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/51 "2013-09-07T17:11:54Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Tonight, the Red Sox crushed New York at Yankee Stadium for the second time in two days, scoring nine unanswered runs in two innings to overcome a five run deficit, beating the Yankees, 12-8. Boston has scored 41 runs in three games, including two grand slams, and Will Middlebrooks hit home runs in three consecutive games. September been bery, bery good to the Red Sox.

Not so fast. [Ellsbury out indefinitely, may have navicular bone fracture](http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/9644004/jacoby-ellsbury-boston-red-sox-indefinitely-foot-injury)

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/52 "2013-09-07T21:02:31Z")

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I told you guys to keep an eye on Billy Hamilton. Dude’s _freaky_ fast.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/53 "2013-09-07T23:02:36Z")

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He is a serious weapon. Will he be available for the post-season?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/54 "2013-09-07T23:21:17Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> He is a serious weapon. Will he be available for the post-season?

Looks like he will be due to an MLB rule that allows him to replace a player on the disabled list, in this case, RP Nick Massett.

> **[Billy Hamilton Fantasy](https://www.fantasysp.com/mlb_player_news/Billy_Hamilton/)**
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> Free agent OF Billy Hamilton, 34, is looking for a minor league contract with an MLB camp invite after leading off for @charrosbeisbol during their run to the Caribbean Series Final. 
> 
> @MLBNetwork

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/55 "2013-09-08T03:27:08Z")

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Billy Hamilton has played in 4 major league games. He has never had a plate appearance or played in the field. His WPA (win probability added) for the year is 0.3. This puts him fifth among position players for the Reds.

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/56 "2013-09-08T03:52:55Z")

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The Reds honored Joe Morgan this weekend. As part of the festivities they had the “great 8” (the eight starting position players) from the Big Red Machine. When they were introduced the stadium announcer called them “the greatest starting lineup in major league history”. I certainly think they are one of the contenders for that title, but I also figure that they just decided to claim that without any real attempt to back it up statistically.

So, what team did have the greatest starting eight? The 1927 Yankees certainly had greater players in Ruth and Gehrig, but they also had weaker spots with Dugan and Koenig. I am not sure which lineup I would rather have overall. What other teams would be contenders for this title?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/57 "2013-09-08T04:49:05Z")

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> [@MentalGuy](#):
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> The Reds honored Joe Morgan this weekend. As part of the festivities they had the “great 8” (the eight starting position players) from the Big Red Machine. When they were introduced the stadium announcer called them “the greatest starting lineup in major league history”. I certainly think they are one of the contenders for that title, but I also figure that they just decided to claim that without any real attempt to back it up statistically.
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> So, what team did have the greatest starting eight? The 1927 Yankees certainly had greater players in Ruth and Gehrig, but they also had weaker spots with Dugan and Koenig. I am not sure which lineup I would rather have overall. What other teams would be contenders for this title?

And of course, our beloved Pete Rose showed up in jeans and a t-shirt with a ballcap while everyone else took it seriously and dressed appropriately. Ah Pete. You’re such a douchebag.

And here I was thinking the “Great Eight” referred to four well-endowed women.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/58 "2013-09-08T05:01:39Z")

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Maybe the Gas House Gang?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/59 "2013-09-08T06:22:59Z")

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This is how painful it’s become to defend the guy: [Pete Rose Furniture Commercial - MUST SEE - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQhwP0b-B5c)

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**Author:** ![Seydell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Seydell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seydell)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/60 "2013-09-08T06:50:46Z")

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> [@MentalGuy](#):
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> So, what team did have the greatest starting eight? The 1927 Yankees certainly had greater players in Ruth and Gehrig, but they also had weaker spots with Dugan and Koenig. I am not sure which lineup I would rather have overall. What other teams would be contenders for this title?

The Bleacher Report ([http://bleacherreport.com/articles/572765-mlb-power-rankings-the-50-best-offensive-teams-in-mlb-history](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/572765-mlb-power-rankings-the-50-best-offensive-teams-in-mlb-history)) like the 27 Yankees and list the 76 Reds as the 15th best lineup. They seem to really like the teams from the 20s and 30s as 13 of the top 15 teams are from those decades.

I’d like to see a list of the top offenses adjusted to their run scoring environments.

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