# MLB: September

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 1, 2013, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714 "2013-09-01T05:33:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/141 "2013-09-20T19:32:18Z")

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As long as the Dodgers weren’t tearing LA RULEZ! AZ IS TEH SUXXOR! in the infield grass, the request is unreasonable.

I’ve never heard of a request like that before - has anyone else? I’m not sure modifying the word ‘request’ with ‘polite’ makes it so. It’s pretty damned self-important.

How did the Dodgers get to the pool?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/142 "2013-09-20T19:39:54Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> How did the Dodgers get to the pool?

They hopped the fence. Wanna see gifs? [There are lots of gifs](http://www.mlbgifs.com/2013/09/dodgers-win-nl-west-jump-into-diamondbacks-pool/).

[Scroll down a bit to see Ryu following behind](http://www.mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2013/09/19/how-did-the-dodgers-really-make-it-out-to-the-chase-field-pool/) or read the article, it’s a really good blog.

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**Author:** ![brettster55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brettster55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brettster55)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/143 "2013-09-20T19:40:06Z")

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I’m predicting a massive upset when washington sneaks into the playoffs over pitt or cinci. The two face each other for 6 games in the next week and could be interesting.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/144 "2013-09-20T19:48:31Z")

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> [@brettster55](#):
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> I’m predicting a massive upset when washington sneaks into the playoffs over pitt or cinci. The two face each other for 6 games in the next week and could be interesting.

The problem is that each time one of them loses, the other wins, so the elimination number goes down. I want DC to sneak in, but it’s just not going to happen.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/145 "2013-09-20T21:38:05Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Man, the NL Central race is so tight! The Cards lost today so the Pirates are one game back and the Reds are two back after (barely) sweeping the Astros.
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> The Reds have nine games left…six of which are against the Pirates…three away, three at home to close out the season with three more against the Mets at home sandwiched in between.
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> The two series with the Buccos should be epic, and depending on what St Louis does (they have three games each with the Brewers, Nationals and Cubs) could very well decide the division winner.
> 
> My palms are sweating already.

Dont know what you are nervous about. The Pirates blew 3 out of 4 at home to those juggernaut Padres, so I don’t think the Pirates are going into this weekend on an up note.

Gotta love my Pirates. 20 years of negativity washed away this year, but when they have a chance to take control of the division and their destiny, they roll over like a tired dog. AJ Burnet, sticking to his form, pitches 5 strong innings, and then comes apart in the 6th. The Pirates offense disappears like a frightened turtle for here games, and the one lead they had was blown by their closer, Mark Melancon, who hadn’t blown a save all year until they played the New York Padres.

This is how I know I love the Pirates. This team can still rip my hear out even after 20’years of losing, getting over the hump, and getting close to 90 wins should be enough… But I STILL CARE!

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/146 "2013-09-20T23:20:57Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Serious question seeking serious answer. There’s been a bit of a stink made about the fact that the Dodgers decided to celebrate clinching yesterday by jumping in the pool at Chase Field. Whatever I think personally of the so-called unwritten rules of baseball, I can see how that might be considered a violation of them.
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> However, one of the things that has been pointed out is that prior to the win, the Diamondbacks organization had asked the Dodgers NOT to celebrate on their _field_ should they clinch (which may have been the Dodgers’ motivation for seeking another part of the stadium in which to party). I’m thinking, who the hell does that? Who even has the right to make such a request? And what is their motivation? This comes from a organization that reportedly won’t allow people to sit in the best seats in the house if they’re wearing gear supporting another team. I’ve never heard of a team making a request like that before, and it makes them sound (to me) rather pathetic.
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> Any ideas?

I think the Dbacks should have handled things a bit better. If I was in charge, I would have had the stadium play Route 66 and then I love LA, wishing the Dodgers success in defending the NL West. If Gibson would have been willing, have him lead the Dbacks onto the field to congratulate the Dodgers for the win.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/147 "2013-09-20T23:50:11Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I think the Dbacks should have handled things a bit better. If I was in charge, I would have had the stadium play Route 66 and then I love LA, wishing the Dodgers success in defending the NL West. If Gibson would have been willing, have him lead the Dbacks onto the field to congratulate the Dodgers for the win.

I think both teams could have handled it a bit better, but yeah, it’d be nice to see more sportsmanship generally (while acknowledging that these two teams had some bad blood between them this year already). There was a shot shortly after the game showing Gibson standing in the dugout, staring out at the Dodgers on the field and muttering to himself. He did not look to be in a congratulatory mood at all.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/148 "2013-09-21T00:02:52Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I think the Dbacks should have handled things a bit better. If I was in charge, I would have had the stadium play Route 66 and then I love LA, wishing the Dodgers success in defending the NL West. If Gibson would have been willing, have him lead the Dbacks onto the field to congratulate the Dodgers for the win.

No, I’d have just let the Dodgers alone to have their celebration in the middle of the field and played my standard game-losing music and scoreboard announcements ("Drive safely! We’ll see you back here for our next home game against X on \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_, 2013, etc.) The celebration would’ve lasted 5 or 10 minutes and then everyone would’ve forgotten about it. There was no need at all for the D-Backs to ban the celebration from the field. That just makes them look petty.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/149 "2013-09-21T00:03:28Z")

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Gibby never liked losing _at all_. Can’t really say the Dodgers broke an unwritten rule when no-one else in baseball **has** a pool. As for being classless, call me back when you’ve quit throwing at other player’s heads.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/150 "2013-09-21T00:07:39Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> No, I’d have just let the Dodgers alone to have their celebration in the middle of the field and played my standard game-losing music and scoreboard announcements ("Drive safely! We’ll see you back here for our next home game against X on \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_, 2013, etc.) The celebration would’ve lasted 5 or 10 minutes and then everyone would’ve forgotten about it. There was no need at all for the D-Backs to ban the celebration from the field. That just makes them look petty.

Yeah, I wasn’t watching, and using the pool strikes me as inappropriate, but not being able to use the field is also inappropriate.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/151 "2013-09-21T01:17:50Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> No, I’d have just let the Dodgers alone to have their celebration in the middle of the field and played my standard game-losing music and scoreboard announcements ("Drive safely! We’ll see you back here for our next home game against X on \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_, 2013, etc.) The celebration would’ve lasted 5 or 10 minutes and then everyone would’ve forgotten about it. There was no need at all for the D-Backs to ban the celebration from the field. That just makes them look petty.

This, exactly.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/152 "2013-09-21T01:59:10Z")

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Check out this relatively elderly woman [snag a foul ball](http://deadspin.com/older-lady-snags-screaming-foul-liner-1355482833) in the Astros-Indians game. Great stuff.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/153 "2013-09-21T02:07:46Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> The Pirates offense disappears like a frightened turtle for here games, and the one lead they had was blown by their closer, Mark Melancon, who hadn’t blown a save all year until they played the New York Padres.
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> This is how I know I love the Pirates. This team can still rip my hear out even after 20’years of losing, getting over the hump, and getting close to 90 wins should be enough… But I STILL CARE!

They’re ripping my heart out right now - Melancon just blew a 5-2 lead in the 9th. As much as I keep saying the Nats are out, the Bucs are my favorite team right now because they could - theoretically - hand the Reds a whole bunch of losses.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/154 "2013-09-21T02:44:25Z")

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OK, now Boston can celebrate

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/155 "2013-09-21T02:59:48Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> They’re ripping my heart out right now - Melancon just blew a 5-2 lead in the 9th. As much as I keep saying the Nats are out, the Bucs are my favorite team right now because they could - theoretically - hand the Reds a whole bunch of losses.

The Pirates have blown 2 games in 3 days. They are absolutely killing me. Melancon’s jig is up: throw the bat out and slap it to right field. I don’t know how we can stick with him.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/156 "2013-09-21T05:19:25Z")

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Wow. Suck it, Hurdle!

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/157 "2013-09-21T14:06:08Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> The Pirates have blown 2 games in 3 days. They are absolutely killing me. Melancon’s jig is up: throw the bat out and slap it to right field.

Well, then, as of now, my favorite team is the Reds. It doesn’t matter, so long as one team goes 5-0 and the other 0-5 for the 5 contests remaining between them.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/158 "2013-09-21T17:12:47Z")

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Blue Jays catcher J.P. Arencibia needs just 24 more plate appearances to quality for the batting title.

His on base percentage - not his batting average, his ON BASE PERCENTAGE - is .230.

I wonder if anyone in the live ball era has ever had an OBP that bad before with enough plate appearances to quality for the batting title?

EDIT: A few have. The lowest qualifying OBPs since 1945, anyway:

Hal Lanier, Giants, .222 (1968)  
Andres Thomas, Braves, .228 (1989)  
J.P. Arencibia, Blue Jays, .230 (2013) \* - Season not completed  
Hal Lanier, Giants, .241 (1967)  
Alfredo Griffin, Blue Jays, .241 (1981) \* - strike shortened

Ouch.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/159 "2013-09-22T02:36:51Z")

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Melancon is benched and Grilli gets his first save since July. The Bucs still have a pulse.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/667714/160 "2013-09-22T05:01:22Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> Melancon is benched and Grilli gets his first save since July. The Bucs still have a pulse.

I really don’t think Dusty should have pulled Bailey when he did. Homer was at only 91 pitches in the sixth inning, he was pitching pretty well, and he gave up a sac fly to score McCutcheon to make it 3-2 at that point. There were then two out and a runner on second and he would have faced a lefty…big deal. So out trots Zach Duke whom promptly gives up a base hit to score the runner on second. I did not agree with that call AT ALL.

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