# MLB: September

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 1, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150 "2014-09-01T14:32:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/21 "2014-09-04T01:48:57Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I’m watching the Nats at Dodgers, where are the crowds? Home team is in first place in their division vs NL East first place team.

The game that wouldn’t end. I alternately thought the Nats had it lost and won several times. Maybe a candidate for game of the year?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/22 "2014-09-04T01:57:08Z")

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Yeah, that was crazy.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/23 "2014-09-04T02:04:34Z")

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Yay me, I just got a phone call that I won a sweepstakes for four box seats and a pre-game dinner at AT&T to watch the Giants beat the Dodgers next Saturday. But the things you have to go through to get the tickets, Jeez!

It looks like there is going to be some major shuffling of AAA affiliates when the season is over. Sacramento will affiliate with San Francisco, Fresno will affiliate with Milwaukee, and Nashville will affiliate with Oakland.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/24 "2014-09-04T04:18:36Z")

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Well…the Reds have sunk into the morass of below mediocrity, but I told you fools about Billy Hamilton, he whom makes opposing pitcher’s panties wet with anxiety over a stolen base…

I think Hamilton is a good qualifier for ROY.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/25 "2014-09-04T12:59:13Z")

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Hamilton has been caught stealing so much that his stolen base attempts have done almost as much damage to the Reds as they have helped. One caught stealing negates at least two stolen bases.

I’ve no doubt he will get better at it, though, with some experience dealing with MLB pitchers and catchers.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/26 "2014-09-04T18:28:10Z")

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> [@P-man](#):
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> The game that wouldn’t end. I alternately thought the Nats had it lost and won several times. Maybe a candidate for game of the year?

Three blown saves! Wonder if anyone keeps track of the most blown saves in one game. And good thing this was after they had expanded the rosters - the two teams used 18 pitchers between them.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/27 "2014-09-04T18:49:46Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Hamilton has been caught stealing so much that his stolen base attempts have done almost as much damage to the Reds as they have helped.

This season he has 55 stolen bases and has been caught stealing 21 times, for a success rate of 72%. This is pretty good - not great, but OK.

What really limits Hamilton’s value is his low walk rate. He walks only about 5% of the time, and as a result his OBP this season is only .304. All that speed on the basepaths doesn’t help if you’re not on base.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/28 "2014-09-04T18:52:37Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> the two teams used 18 pitchers between them.

Wouldn’ta needed 'em all if ya didn’t haveta pinch hit for 'em.

Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/29 "2014-09-04T20:09:24Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> This season he has 55 stolen bases and has been caught stealing 21 times, for a success rate of 72%. This is pretty good - not great, but OK.

I didn’t say it was BAD, just that it isn’t terribly significant. All Hamilton’s basestealing is worth the equivalent of maybe three base hits.

He’s a good player, an excellent outfielder who might get better with the bat, and he’d be my choice for Rookie of the Year. He ain’t Rickey Henderson, though, which I’m actually kind of disappointed with; the way Hamilton was stealing bases in the minors I was hoping he’d steal a hundred in the majors.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/30 "2014-09-04T21:37:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> It looks like there is going to be some major shuffling of AAA affiliates when the season is over. Sacramento will affiliate with San Francisco, Fresno will affiliate with Milwaukee, and Nashville will affiliate with Oakland.

I heard rumors to that effect a couple months ago, but it turned out at the time that there wasn’t actually all that much to them…have there been recent developments to the story?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/31 "2014-09-04T22:53:55Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> I heard rumors to that effect a couple months ago, but it turned out at the time that there wasn’t actually all that much to them…have there been recent developments to the story?

Here in Sacramento it’s being reported as pretty much a done deal that the River Cats will be signing with San Francisco, which leaves Oakland out in the cold, and Nashville is available.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/32 "2014-09-05T01:33:32Z")

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So Chris Carter of Houston has a real shot at leading the major leagues in home runs; at the moment, his OBP is only .300, his SLG is .520, and he only is worth 1.9 wins above replacement (per ESPN’s stats); he almost certainly will finish below 3. I wonder how far down on the list of worst home run leaders that would place him? Pedro Alvarez, last year, was just about as bad, but he only led the national league, not the majors - the first guy I come across among the major league leaders who’s comparable is Tony Armas in 1984 with 43 homers, a .268/.300/.531 line, and 3.3 WAR.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/33 "2014-09-05T03:14:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Here in Sacramento it’s being reported as pretty much a done deal that the River Cats will be signing with San Francisco, which leaves Oakland out in the cold, and Nashville is available.

I’m in Sacramento, and I haven’t heard anything that’s remotely close to ‘official’ on the subject, and a Google search comes up with nothing more recent that July. I’m not saying it won’t happen, but I don’t see anything that makes this more than a rumor at this point.

As a Giants fan, I’d like nothing more than for their AAA team to play 10 minutes from my house, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/34 "2014-09-05T13:29:58Z")

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Rick Kitchen:

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> Here in Sacramento it’s being reported as pretty much a done deal that the River Cats will be signing with San Francisco, which leaves Oakland out in the cold

Boy, the Giants really like doing that to the A’s, don’t they?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/35 "2014-09-05T14:19:51Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Wouldn’ta needed 'em all if ya didn’t haveta pinch hit for 'em.
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> Just sayin’.

But that’s baseball. I guess we could just use a T-ball stand too.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/36 "2014-09-05T15:04:51Z")

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\*Someone \*doesn’t like the DH rule!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/37 "2014-09-05T16:44:11Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Wouldn’ta needed 'em all if ya didn’t haveta pinch hit for 'em.
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> Just sayin’.

All I can say is, if my boss told me, “a significant component of your job is going to be something you’re notoriously bad at - but the good news is, we’re OK with your fucking up in that part of the job and we won’t evaluate you on your (lack of) success there,” I’d think she was crazy.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/38 "2014-09-06T00:37:42Z")

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So, Ron Washington. Speculation? Relapse?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/39 "2014-09-06T23:49:57Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> I’m in Sacramento, and I haven’t heard anything that’s remotely close to ‘official’ on the subject, and a Google search comes up with nothing more recent that July. I’m not saying it won’t happen, but I don’t see anything that makes this more than a rumor at this point.
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> As a Giants fan, I’d like nothing more than for their AAA team to play 10 minutes from my house, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

ABC 10 was reporting it as a sure thing as recently as a week ago.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-september/697150/40 "2014-09-06T23:53:54Z")

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Chad Qualls has four blown saves against the A’s this season, and has given up 12 earned runs against them.

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