# MLB Steroid Report Career Death Pool **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 12, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767 "2007-12-12T18:44:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dead0man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@dead0man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dead0man)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/21 "2007-12-13T03:32:18Z")
1.A.Rod 2.J.Thome 3.Manny Ramirez 4.Carlos Delgado 5.Andruw Jones 6.R. Clemons 7.R.Klesko 8.G.Sheffield 9.J.Damon 10.C.Schilling ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/22 "2007-12-13T04:02:12Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] I can almost guarantee you that neither of these men will be on this list, especially Frank Thomas. [/QUOTE] What makes you so sure about Thome? Just Curious… ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/23 "2007-12-13T04:26:20Z")
Oh God, I know (almost) for a fact that a couple of my favorite players will probably be named… I am so sad. I can’t do it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/24 "2007-12-13T04:53:26Z")
[QUOTE=drm] What makes you so sure about Thome? Just Curious… [/QUOTE] I’m curious about this from the other side. I’ve never heard his name linked with 'roids and I’m surprised to see him on everyone else’s list. There has to be something that I’ve missed. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/25 "2007-12-13T04:59:34Z")
Jose Guillen Troy Glaus Mc Gwire Canseco Pudge Giambi Palmiero Tejada Gary Mathews jr Rick Ankiel Reports vary from 50 to 80 names. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/26 "2007-12-13T05:16:06Z")
No-one’s mentioned Nolan Ryan? I’m not saying he did, but it’s not impossible he might have used them to heal quicker. He played for a heck of a long time. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/27 "2007-12-13T05:17:22Z")
[QUOTE=Kid\_A] I’m curious about this from the other side. I’ve never heard his name linked with 'roids and I’m surprised to see him on everyone else’s list. There has to be something that I’ve missed. [/QUOTE] To give you insight into my list, I went back to 2003 and prior and looked at who lead the league in HR’s and who was also on the strikeout list. That’s the same reason why Adam Dunn makes the list. Nothing more than that. I’m more cynical than most when it comes to steroid use so nobody is really off limits. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/28 "2007-12-13T05:22:25Z")
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath] No-one’s mentioned Nolan Ryan? I’m not saying he did, but it’s not impossible he might have used them to heal quicker. He played for a heck of a long time. [/QUOTE] Funny you should mention him. He was on another list of mine in another pool (it includes retired players such as Rickey Henderson, Greg Vaughn, and Matt Williams). As an aside, I would find it amusing if EPO was an issue in baseball. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/29 "2007-12-13T07:28:00Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] 1. Jeff Bagwell (when was he caught? I don’t remember that.) [/QUOTE] That was an oops on my part. I was thinking Ken Caminiti and accidentally typed Bagwell. Though Bagwell’s not a bad sleeper pick! ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/30 "2007-12-13T13:00:46Z")
I’m only going to name one, and I want a special ruling from **Sal** to be declared the automatic winner if he’s named. Cal Ripken ---
**Author:** ![Lunar\_Saltlick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/977dab/32.png) [@Lunar\_Saltlick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lunar_Saltlick)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/31 "2007-12-13T13:29:30Z")
I’m amazed everyone’s picking Clemens and Schilling. I certainly wouldn’t be surprised to find out that so-and-so is using, but I’m assuming (I guess incorrectly) that the report won’t go out of its way to name everybody it could name. I thought it would be kind of like cleaning up corporate America: nail a few biggies (Enron, Arthur Andersen, WorldCom, Tyco) to get the message across, but don’t nail \*everybody’s \* ass to the wall. Who wants to see the Dow at 5,000? Same thing here, no? Won’t the report hold back from ripping the league and the “integrity” of the players and record books to shreds? I have to admit I haven’t been paying very much attention. Maybe I’ve missed something. Is it rumored that the report is going to name a long, long list of well-known players? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/32 "2007-12-13T13:42:17Z")
About 60-80 people will be named, including MVP’s and All-Stars: [http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/13/steroid.report.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/13/steroid.report.ap/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/33 "2007-12-13T14:42:14Z")
It pains me to present, the all Mets list. Seeing how Kirk Radomski worked in the Mets clubhouse between 1985-1995, and continued to sell drugs to players while he was based in NY, I’m guessing a disproportionate amount of New York players will be represented. I’ll be disappointed to see Piazza on the list, but I’m almost resigned to the fact that he certainly did some kind of performance enhancing drugs. For the sake of fun, I’m leaving Schoenweis and Mota off of my list. 1. Todd Hundley 2. Bernard Gilkey 3. Bobby Bonilla 4. Edgardo Alfonzo 5. Jeff Kent 6. Carlos Baerga 7. Mike Piazza 8. Cliff Floyd 9. Roberto Alomar 10. Armando Benitez ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/34 "2007-12-13T15:00:20Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] I’m only going to name one, and I want a special ruling from **Sal** to be declared the automatic winner if he’s named. Cal Ripken [/QUOTE] If you’re right, there truly is no Santa Claus. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/35 "2007-12-13T15:06:28Z")
Ok, here are mine: Brady Anderson Roger Clemons Brad Fullmer Ivan Rodriguez Rafael Palmeiro Juan Gonzalez Roberto Alomar Mike Hampton Kenny Rogers Adrian Beltre ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/36 "2007-12-13T15:22:14Z")
Sadly, many players use steroids in order to recover more quickly from injuries, especially pitchers. Not everyone is trying to get big or power them out of the park- some guys are just trying to keep an edge in a game where there is ALWAYS someone coming up behind you to take your spot. Texas-league power might not keep your job- but a bit more might keep you in the show… I expect to see lots of injury-prone older players on that list… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/37 "2007-12-13T16:03:16Z")
[Clemens’ name has been leaked.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22189702/) ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/38 "2007-12-13T16:33:39Z")
Clemens Giambi Aaron Boone Garciaparra Sheffield Sosa Jason Varitek Mike Lowell Mike Mussina Andy Pettite ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/39 "2007-12-13T16:44:59Z")
In the same vein as **AndyPolley** , I’ll present a list that completely consists of Texas Rangers [ol] [li]Ivan ‘Pudge’ Rodriguez[/li][li]Jose Canseco[/li][li]Juan Gonzales[/li][li]Rafael Palmeiro[/li][li]Sammy Sosa[/li][li]David Segui[/li][li]Mark McLemore[/li][li]Dean Palmer[/li][li]John Rocker[/li]and this last one would utterly destroy me [li]Nolan Ryan[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767/40 "2007-12-13T16:54:30Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] I’m only going to name one, and I want a special ruling from **Sal** to be declared the automatic winner if he’s named. Cal Ripken [/QUOTE] No dice! By the rules of the game, he’s worth 431 points. Oh, and by the way, everyone should feel free to revise their lists up till the deadline. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-steroid-report-career-death-pool/429767.md?page=3)