# Mockingbird, a moment please.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 5, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194 "2005-07-05T21:28:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/1 "2005-07-05T21:28:07Z")

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**Mockingbird** , heck, anyone, could you explain [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6332704&postcount=50) and **Mockingbird’s** subsequent posts throughout that thread? I’m willing to give **Mockingbird** the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he’s having a bad day. Maybe someone called him a name IRL and he’s lashing out here. Please, help me to understand.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/2 "2005-07-05T21:34:21Z")

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[This was where the lunacy really began.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6332763&postcount=51)  
([Oh, and here’s the whole thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=324107&page=1&pp=50))

Although of course it seems that it’s perfectly fine for non-straight people to make the same jokes. Either **Mock** is a bigot, or just having a really bad day. But his conduct in that thread is absolutely shameful.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/3 "2005-07-05T21:38:31Z")

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Exactly what I would expect from a mockingbird. Loud noise. All times of the day. No rhyme or reason. No surprises.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/4 "2005-07-05T22:15:19Z")

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> [@Yeticus Rex](#):
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> Exactly what I would expect from a mockingbird. Loud noise. All times of the day. No rhyme or reason. No surprises.

Hey! Mockingbirds are my favorite birds! They only sing all night if they aren’t getting any. Plus they’re all sorts of gutsy: they’ll attack anything that invades their breeding area.

Besides, **Mockingbird** took his name from a comic book character.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/5 "2005-07-05T23:40:58Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> Besides, **Mockingbird** took his name from a comic book character.

But I still think **Hastur** is a cooler name.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/6 "2005-07-06T00:19:29Z")

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He’s just crazy. All the time. He’s been like this for a long while.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/7 "2005-07-06T00:23:11Z")

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Just coming out of lurker mode to say:

I read that entire thread, and **FinnAgain** , you deserve an anti-Pitting. Some of your comments in there were truly inspired.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/8 "2005-07-06T01:19:54Z")

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Awww shucks ma’am, tweren’t nuthin’

~kicks dirt~

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/9 "2005-07-06T02:05:15Z")

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**Mockingbird** , I truly feel sorry for you. You’ve obviously had a rough life. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be gay and to have to deal with the bigotry that you’ve had to deal with.

But I really don’t know what you want from me. I’m straight, and I can’t understand why you’d want me to not act that way. I’m not asking you to not be gay. If you want to pop into a thread about who your favorite actor is and mention that you think that Mark Walhberg has a great ass, go for it. I’m not offended. I don’t care.

But you really do have to get over it. You’re in the minority, which means that most people are straight. Therefore whenever people start talking about sex, 9 times out of 10 it’s going to be about straight sex. Guy on girl. Straight guys are going to talk about boobs. And your shrill screeches (don’t be mistaken and think that your posts on this matter are anything but shrill) of bigotry and heterosexism aren’t doing anybody any good.

Of course, you’ve heard all this before from other people, so I have no doubt that you’re just going to dismiss me and my post like you did the others. But I sincerely hope not.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/10 "2005-07-06T02:07:48Z")

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Better advice would be to lighten up. I find it really hard to believe someone could get so worked up over a few boobie jokes.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/11 "2005-07-06T03:35:38Z")

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I think he was upset at the “A gay man pitted heteros over a boobie highjack, and they responded by drowning his thread in boobie highjacks! Oh the humanity! To me, my gay brethren, to me! Heterosexism!” aspect of it.

That it was a dumbassed pitting over an insignificant event never seems to have entered his mind.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/12 "2005-07-06T04:35:10Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> \<snip\>And your shrill screeches (don’t be mistaken and think that your posts on this matter are anything but shrill) of bigotry and heterosexism aren’t doing anybody any good.  
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I wouldn’t say that. Like I said in the original thread, before reading his post, it had never occurred to me before how heterosexual-oriented the world is. Yes, homosexuals are the minority, and therefore the majority of sexual displays will be heterosexual, but I think **Mockingbird** makes a very valid point when he says that homosexual displays are basically not allowed. That isn’t right.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/13 "2005-07-06T05:01:53Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> I think **Mockingbird** makes a very valid point when he says that homosexual displays are basically not allowed. That isn’t right.

Except that they ain’t 'round here.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/14 "2005-07-06T05:22:57Z")

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**andros** , you’re saying that homosexual displays aren’t not allowed here? Its’ late and my brain is shutting down.  
[Tim Curry]The double negative is proof positive![/TC]

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/15 "2005-07-06T05:51:53Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> **andros** , you’re saying that homosexual displays aren’t not allowed here?

. . . .

. . . . . . .  
Yes. Right. Aren’t not. They are.

> [@](#):
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> Its’ late and my brain is shutting down.

Obviously yours isn’t the only one.

> [@](#):
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> [Tim Curry]The double negative is proof positive![/TC]

Hold on . . . one plus two, plus one, plus one . . .

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/16 "2005-07-06T05:54:26Z")

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That’s how I had it figured. Some people round here could benefit from an Opal diet, with, appropriately enough, 3 components: Orwell, Popper and C.S. Lewis.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/17 "2005-07-06T07:06:45Z")

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It’s been my experience he likes to hold grudges. Even in threads I agree with him, he manages to get a snide insult involved. (No, I’m not doing the legwork to search for it. Not worth the time and effort. It boils down to his view that duffer=insult-worthy.) In every case.

It’s one thing to fight ingnorance and debate or flame someone based on posts in current threads. It’s another to constantly make known a genuine dislike. Shit, even **elucidator** , **Diogenes** ,\*\* Reeder\*\*, and **Left Hand of Dorkness** have on occasion shown a modicum of respect for me as a human being. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/18 "2005-07-06T13:46:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by featherlou  
> I think Mockingbird makes a very valid point when he says that homosexual displays are basically not allowed. That isn’t right.

> [@andros](#):
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> Except that they ain’t 'round here.

I’ve lived in Calgary for nearly 15 years, and the obvious homosexual PDA’s I’ve seen have been one pair of women holding hands. Unless Calgary is homosexual-free, there are not a lot of homosexual PDA’s going on around here.

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/19 "2005-07-06T13:50:14Z")

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I think “here” was referring to the SDMB, **feath**.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mockingbird-a-moment-please/311194/20 "2005-07-06T14:14:19Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> I’ve lived in Calgary for nearly 15 years, and the obvious homosexual PDA’s I’ve seen have been one pair of women holding hands. Unless Calgary is homosexual-free, there are not a lot of homosexual PDA’s going on around here.

…and that is our fault?

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