# Mod note for on-topic post **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 27, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066 "2018-09-27T22:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/41 "2018-09-28T08:57:13Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Wait, you’re complaining that you weren’t mod-noted _before_ you were mod-noted? What type of reading is this? If I were breaking rules, right, don’t you think I would have been moderated for it? I was noted for how _others_ were responding to me. It’s farcical. I was then topic banned while discussing the moderation and not the topic I was banned from talking about. It’s completely bizarre. But it is a vindication of giraffe brigade tactics so congrats. Go get your next snark target. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/42 "2018-09-28T09:13:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > What type of reading is this? If I were breaking rules, right, don’t you think I would have been moderated for it? You were. > [@](#): > > I was noted for how _others_ were responding to me. No, you were mod-noted for breaking the rules. Thread hijacking, for one thing. > [@](#): > > It’s farcical. _Something_’s farcical, forsure. > [@](#): > > But it is a vindication of giraffe brigade tactics so congrats. Go get your next snark target. Since you love lurking over there, care to check the last time I posted there? I’ve got a current Pit thread that gives the lie to your paranoia. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/43 "2018-09-28T09:25:59Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You were.No, you were mod-noted for breaking the rules. Thread hijacking, for one thing. > _Something_’s farcical, forsure. > > Since you love lurking over there, care to check the last time I posted there? I’ve got a current Pit thread that gives the lie to your paranoia. You realize that when I post on the topic and in response to a misreading of a clearly written post that that is not a derailment? A derailment is posting junk off topic. My posts were on topic. I’m not responsible for how others respond to me. That is their agency. That is on them. What’s with the infantilizing of those who respond, inaccurately and with inflammatory language, to my on topic posts? That’s the whole point of me questioning the note. I wouldn’t have questioned it if I had done the derailing. I’ve been noted before when I was off topic and I dropped it. When I’m noted for something I didn’t do and the subject is far reaching yeah I want an explanation. I don’t want an irrelevant topic ban on a subject I’m not even discussing in this thread triggered by discussions of what led to the moderation I was asking about. Whatever, you and your noisy crew are the squeaky wheel. There’s one of me. There’s many of you. Easier to go with the flow. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/44 "2018-09-28T09:42:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize that when I post on the topic and in response to a misreading of a clearly written post that that is not a derailment? A derailment is posting junk off topic. My posts were on topic. The topic was misogyny. Misandry is not misogyny. But you knew that. > [@](#): > > Whatever, you and your noisy crew are the squeaky wheel. There’s one of me. There’s many of you. Easier to go with the flow. Hammer, hammer, hammer, saw, saw, saw… ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/45 "2018-09-28T10:02:25Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Hammer, hammer, hammer, saw, saw, saw… All for the doggie with the soft, soft paw? That’s what my granny used to say. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/46 "2018-09-28T10:52:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That seems cowardly to capitulate to a dishonest mob. +0 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/47 "2018-09-28T11:16:23Z")
I’m telling you this counting +1 stuff is fucking pointless. So stop it. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/48 "2018-09-28T13:55:44Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I’m telling you this counting +1 stuff is fucking pointless. So stop it. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/49 "2018-09-28T14:03:05Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The topic was misogyny. > > Misandry is not misogyny. > > But you knew that. > > Hammer, hammer, hammer, saw, saw, saw… I read **octopus’s** point about “group of men to identify misandry” or whatever as not a serious suggestion but a rhetorical question to illustrate the absurdity of the idea of a council of women to identify misogyny here at the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/50 "2018-09-28T14:14:21Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > Very well, since you insist on not taking my advice, you may now consider yourself topic banned in ATMB. You may not discuss anything at all related to women’s issues or misogyny in ATMB. > > I will also discuss broadening this ban to encompass the entire SDMB with the rest of the staff. Great move. Thank you! Please strongly consider making it for the whole board. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/51 "2018-09-28T14:14:42Z")
> [@jonathan chance](#): > > i’m telling you this counting +1 stuff is fucking pointless. So stop it. > [@hajario](#): > > i agree. . 👍 ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/52 "2018-09-28T14:27:54Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I’m telling you this counting +1 stuff is fucking pointless. So stop it. Another good argument for a like/upvote button. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/53 "2018-09-28T14:54:35Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > I read **octopus’s** point about “group of men to identify misandry” or whatever as not a serious suggestion but a rhetorical question to illustrate the absurdity of the idea of a council of women to identify misogyny here at the SDMB. There _are_ ways to present a challenge of absurdity to the offered panel suggestion that _aren’t_ indistinguishable from trite whataboutism. If your “rhetorical question” is indistinguishable from actual misogynist tactics, well, I don’t see why the mods need to dig into your motives. Not that I think that was the case, mind you. I think he was being perfectly serious in his hijack attempt. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/54 "2018-09-28T15:47:28Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > There _are_ ways to present a challenge of absurdity to the offered panel suggestion that _aren’t_ indistinguishable from trite whataboutism. If your “rhetorical question” is indistinguishable from actual misogynist tactics, well, I don’t see why the mods need to dig into your motives. > > Not that I think that was the case, mind you. I think he was being perfectly serious in his hijack attempt. You can think what you wish, for now. Just be careful to keep what you write in alignment with what is acceptable now and if you are wise the standards 50 years from now. I wasn’t hijacking. I’m not responsible for other people’s posts or how they misrepresent mine. Mods don’t have to do any digging. They just shouldn’t be holding poster A responsible for what posters B,C,D,E, etc post in response. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/55 "2018-09-28T15:48:22Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Mods don’t have to do any digging. They just shouldn’t be holding poster A responsible for what posters B,C,D,E, etc post in response. Fortunately, that’s not what’s happening. Unfortunately, I do not believe my pedagogical skills are up to explaining why, in a way that you’ll understand. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/56 "2018-09-28T15:57:39Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Fortunately, that’s not what’s happening. Unfortunately, I do not believe my pedagogical skills are up to explaining why, in a way that you’ll understand. Here’s an example: Thread pops about affirmative action. Liberal orthodoxy posts the only acceptable point of view. Octopus says “I don’t believe in discrimination to fight discrimination.” Liberal orthodoxy and trolls then misrepresent that clear statement as being racist, Nazi!11!, a derailment, trolling, or “jerkish!” Octopus responds to dishonest characterization and gets mod noted. Pit thread is opened where liberal orthodoxy can reinforce the view that octopus is indeed whatever they claimed octopus was. Complete with other smears like octopus rapes children. Liberal orthodoxy can now feel proud to have kept the internet safe once more! ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/57 "2018-09-28T15:59:30Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Here’s an example: > > Thread pops about affirmative action. > > Liberal orthodoxy posts the only acceptable point of view. > > Octopus says “I don’t believe in discrimination to fight discrimination.” > > Liberal orthodoxy and trolls then misrepresent that clear statement as being racist, Nazi!11!, a derailment, trolling, or “jerkish!” > > Octopus responds to dishonest characterization and gets mod noted. > > Pit thread is opened where liberal orthodoxy can reinforce the view that octopus is indeed whatever they claimed octopus was. Complete with other smears like octopus rapes children. > > Liberal orthodoxy can now feel proud to have kept the internet safe once more! Do you have a link so we can see what actually was posted? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/58 "2018-09-28T16:00:40Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Here’s an example: > > Thread pops about affirmative action. > > Liberal orthodoxy posts the only acceptable point of view. > > Octopus says “I don’t believe in discrimination to fight discrimination.” > > Liberal orthodoxy and trolls then misrepresent that clear statement as being racist, Nazi!11!, a derailment, trolling, or “jerkish!” > > Octopus responds to dishonest characterization and gets mod noted. > > Pit thread is opened where liberal orthodoxy can reinforce the view that octopus is indeed whatever they claimed octopus was. Complete with other smears like octopus rapes children. > > Liberal orthodoxy can now feel proud to have kept the internet safe once more! Yep, that certainly is an example. A sample of “what” is the next question-I suspect that if this existed in real life you would have just provided a link. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/59 "2018-09-28T16:02:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Here’s an example: > > Thread pops about affirmative action. > > Liberal orthodoxy posts the only acceptable point of view. > > Octopus says “I don’t believe in discrimination to fight discrimination.” > > Liberal orthodoxy and trolls then misrepresent that clear statement as being racist, Nazi!11!, a derailment, trolling, or “jerkish!” > > Octopus responds to dishonest characterization and gets mod noted. > > Pit thread is opened where liberal orthodoxy can reinforce the view that octopus is indeed whatever they claimed octopus was. Complete with other smears like octopus rapes children. > > Liberal orthodoxy can now feel proud to have kept the internet safe once more! I’m hardly a liberal. I’ve argued on this board for years, on many many topics. I’ve argued against affirmative action, and many other topics that are favored by those who are more liberal. I’ve never been pitted (this isn’t an invitation). This idea that non-liberals can’t argue without having their arguments misrepresented is absurd. There are actually quite a few non-liberals who advance arguments and they don’t get pitted either. That’s because they actually engage in substantive argument. If you find yourself getting pitted often, maybe try better arguments? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066/60 "2018-09-28T16:46:57Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > And once the mob manages to burn the heretics on this one particular topic, you think they’ll be satiated? That it won’t then be repeated over and over again on every topic where conservative voices raise uncomfortable points for liberals to consider, until the righteous have struck down all the wicked dissenters and this place is returned to driven-snow purity, unblemished by evil right-wingers? Do me a favor and define “liberal” please? Who are you referring to? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-note-for-on-topic-post/822066.md?page=4)