# Mod question about a not-warning in a thread **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121 "2022-02-08T19:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/21 "2022-02-08T21:02:02Z")
> [@XT](#): > > …especially since it was deliberately done by Stalin, a Ukrainian himself. Stalin was born in Georgia. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/22 "2022-02-08T21:07:55Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I didn’t regard it as so loaded and wasn’t aware of things like Trump’s use of it or whatever else it’s been used for that has set so many off on this prior to this thread, so…lesson learned. I was out this morning, just got back to my keyboard so was unable to address your concerns. I see the issue has been ably explained by @Miller and the community. You asked why a mod note and not a Warning, and it’s because to me, it was obvious you weren’t deliberately intending to use the term in the derogatory manner it conveys. The meanings of words change, take on importance/lose importance at different points in time. We must all adapt. I can’t tell you how heartbroken I was when people became horrified at my use of the term, ‘niggardly’. C’est la vie. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/23 "2022-02-08T21:10:40Z")
Fair enough. I have calmed down a lot since I started this thread…but have to say, I’m glad I did as I wasn’t aware that the term was so loaded. No, I wasn’t intentionally being racist or derogatory, I was simply trying to convey a group colonizing an area that had been ethnically cleansed, and that was the term that popped into my head. At any rate, thank you for the explanation and also for the opportunity to learn some stuff I didn’t know before. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/24 "2022-02-08T21:12:07Z")
Yes, I was thinking of (IIRC) Khrushchev, not Stalin. Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/25 "2022-02-09T06:55:27Z")
The word ‘infested’ immediately jumped out at me, even before the mod intervention. It’s not an acceptable term when applied to human beings. It has very strong connotations of racism and Nazi ideology. You’ve probably never seen the Nazi propaganda movie _Der Ewige Jude_, or other Nazi propaganda material. From the [Philadelphia Holocaust Memorial Plaza](https://www.philaholocaustmemorial.org/antisemitism-explained/): [![](https://i.postimg.cc/130mLb7c/antisemitismexplained-social-rats-2.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/130mLb7c/antisemitismexplained-social-rats-2.jpg) > ### Likening people to vermin (rats) > > Why does racist imagery often show people of certain backgrounds as animals? Rats make us think of disease, dirt and infestation, and have been used to represent Jews in antisemitic imagery throughout history into the present. Take a look at this is propaganda poster from the 1940s when the Nazis occupied Denmark. The text reads “Rats. Destroy them.” > > In a Nazi propaganda film, _the Eternal Jew_ the occupants of a Jewish ghetto are shown in tight quarters likened to rats swarming in a sewer. The statement “Destroy them” is particularly vile due to the common use of Zyklon B to eradicate rats as well as its use in the Nazi death camp’s gas chambers.   **NB: The Nazis regarded Slavic people (like Russians and Ukrainians) as subhuman vermin as well as Jews.** > **[Untermensch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch)** > > Untermensch (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}German pronunciation: \[ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ\] ⓘ; plural: Untermenschen) is a German language word literally meaning 'underman', 'sub-man', or 'subhuman', that was extensively used by Germany's Nazi Party to refer to non-Aryan people they deemed as inferior. It was mainly used against "the masses f... > The concept of the Slavs in particular being _Untermenschen_ served the Nazis’ political goals; it was used to justify their expansionist policy and especially their aggression against Poland and the Soviet Union in order to achieve Lebensraum, **particularly in Ukraine**. > > Early plans of the German Reich (summarized as Generalplan Ost) envisioned the ethnic cleansing and elimination of no fewer than 50 million people, who were not considered fit for Germanization, from territories it wanted to conquer in Europe; Ukraine’s _chernozem_ (“black earth”) soil was considered a particularly desirable zone for colonization by the Herrenvolk. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/26 "2022-02-09T07:02:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > many centuries of various overclasses actively dehumanizing various underclasses Is it gross and offensive _only_ in this context? If the status were reversed, would it be more acceptable? For example: Can we say that the U.S. Congress is infested with white supremacists? ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/27 "2022-02-09T07:05:00Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > For example: Can we say that the U.S. Congress is infested with white supremacists? That would also be unacceptable, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/28 "2022-02-09T07:15:55Z")
I would just like to comment that I appreciate your saying that you will try to avoid using the term that way in the future. It’s a mark of maturity to make a statement like this and to put it into practice. The good things seem to get lost amidst all of the back-and-forth, so I thought it needed to be acknowledged. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/29 "2022-02-09T09:53:09Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > For example: Can we say that the U.S. Congress is infested with white supremacists? I ask this question, because, as a general matter, objecting to this usage would be inconsistent with how the term has been used, and received, by the board, going back many years. A few recent examples follow; there are many more. Posts in which Trump and his far-right loyalists are described as infesting various groups and institutions: > [@Would ex-President Trump run in 2024?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/98): > > In a clear, non-Trump infested playing field, Pompeo would hardly register with the base. > [@What's Trump's end game for the last 14 days of his presidency?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/209): > > Also hope those units are not as infested with MAGAts as most police forces are. > [@How bad will it be on Inauguration Day?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-bad-will-it-be-on-inauguration-day/930098/77): > > Have the MAGAbots infested the FBI and/or Secret Service? > [@Which do you believe is the bigger threat to democracy in the US?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-do-you-believe-is-the-bigger-threat-to-democracy-in-the-us/946880/31): > > They make sure their candidates infest school boards. > [@Biden Is President, Congress Is Blue. Now What?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-is-president-congress-is-blue-now-what/923188/134): > > You cannot work with Republicans. Don’t even try. Treat them like an infestation in the halls of congress. Posts referring to the presence of disruptive people in online fora as infestations: > [@Rorschach Test: Pregnant white woman brandishing gun at black women](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rorschach-test-pregnant-white-woman-brandishing-gun-at-black-women/914365/44): > > Reading the racist twitter post and some of the comments makes me realize that the uneducated and highly delusional folks who infest social media are proof that we are having a negative return on investment with regards to the time and money spent on the education system. > [@A sneak new Frank Parler app appears!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sneak-new-frank-parler-app-appears/945467/33): > > So apparently the place is so completely infested by the lowest lowlife of the internet that Jason Miller spends most of his time censoring and banning, to no avail. Political operators of various stripes constitute an infestation: > [@I've come to the sad realization \[about our elected representatives\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ive-come-to-the-sad-realization-about-our-elected-representatives/947606/22): > > I tend to think of horrible elected representatives as a vermin infestation – you’re always going to have some to deal with, but we create the circumstances in which they can truly flourish > [@Why can't Taiwan be independent?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-cant-taiwan-be-independent/943158/26): > > You are mixing up crony capitalism with communism. And the current crop of communists in crony capitalism clothing these days infesting Beijing. Drug-dealing cartels infest a country: > [@Is now a good time to talk about gun safety laws?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-now-a-good-time-to-talk-about-gun-safety-laws/938605/132): > > Mexico has a gun problem because despite having a fairly high level of industrialization, they are infested with powerful violent drug cartels and rampant government corruption. And so on, and so on. All of these posts are in Great Debates and Politics & Elections, not the Pit. All of these posts use the infestation imagery to refer to actual people, rather than concepts (“crime-infested”) or inanimate objects (“gun-infested”). As far as I can tell, not one of these instances attracted any attention or resulted in any sort of objection; all passed without comment. The point here is not to call attention to these posts and expose these posters to censure under the terms established in this thread. No — the point is to observe that usage of the “infestation” concept has been non-controversial on this board _when there is a general consensus that the phenomenon being so described constitutes a harmful invasion, **especially** by representatives of an established center of power against an oppressed minority._ For example: I would hope nobody on this board disputes the premise that the long-standing and ongoing infiltration of law enforcement by violent race-motivated terrorists is a bad thing. Which is why the following usage does not produce a single batted eye. > [@US voters: Are you afraid of the other side, and to what extent?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-voters-are-you-afraid-of-the-other-side-and-to-what-extent/953659/105): > > The real thing to fear is when they get a critical mass too large for the police to manage, and the extremist-infested police departments start arguing in favor of deputizing them to “control” them. The “infestation” concept is certainly powerful, in how it connotes the penetration, infection, and/or destruction of an established entity by a corrupting outside force. As has been noted by prior posts up to this point in the thread, there is a well-known application of the concept which reflects a hateful and harmful dehumanization and suppression of the unwanted influence of untrusted minorities by suspicious majorities and their delegated authorities. This, clearly, is negative — racist, supremacist, etc. — and is rightfully condemned and should not be tolerated in respectful discussion. But this is not the only possible context, as illustrated by the litany of counterexamples above. Authoritarian zealots are not, in any universe, an oppressed ethnic group or other victimized minority, and there may be legitimate rhetorical value in the perception and labeling of their nefarious shenanigans as an infestation. From this perspective, I don’t think it’s clear at all that @XT committed an unambiguous infraction in his use of the word, as implied by the unanimous tenor of this thread. Ukraine is not a monolith of power imposing their will on their helpless Russian neighbor; and the Russians moving into Ukraine and setting up camp are not innocent pilgrims with motivations unconnected to the larger Russian political agenda. To describe these Russians as “infesting” Ukraine may be _questionable,_ in that it treads closer to the gray center between the heretofore uncontroversial connotation illustrated by the examples above and the nasty, hateful usage connected with the subjugation of persecuted minorities. But it does not, I believe, fall all the way to that side of the continuum, and the pile-on here, in my opinion, was unwarranted. Now — if it is the consensus of the board’s moderators, or of the membership generally, that _any_ such usage of the word must be avoided, because (say) the previously useful and acceptable sense of the term is no longer allowed because it opens the door for malicious actors to justify deployment of the word in its more loathsome context, that seems fine to me. It may be debatable, but there’s a rational basis for it. But it will be _new._ It was not previously a rule, as shown above. And any suggestion that it has always been a rule is not accurate. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/30 "2022-02-09T10:21:51Z")
I got a notification about this post because I was quoted in it. You seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to find occurrences of the word “infested” in previous posts, but I think you’re entirely missing the point. Please see @Miller’s first response in this thread (emphasis mine): > You’re not clear on when talking about **an ethnic group** as if they were insects “became” racist and dehumanizing? Not a single one of your quoted examples uses that word in reference to any racial or ethnic group. And that’s a pretty damned important distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/31 "2022-02-09T10:36:26Z")
I disagree, on two fronts. First, the MAGA minions, as advocates of white supremacy, certainly constitute an ethnically-specific subgroup. Examples abound of their activities being described as infestations, with no pushback. And second, it’s entirely arguable whether “Russian” in the context of the original discussion refers to an identifiable ethnic categorization, or better reflects an underlying political and/or nationalistic agenda. My point here is simply to note that the historical usage of the term on this board has been much, much squishier than the black-and-white pile-on in this thread would suggest. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/32 "2022-02-09T10:46:40Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > My point here is simply to note that the historical usage of the term on this board has been much, much squishier than the black-and-white pile-on in this thread would suggest. You called this thread a pile-on twice now, but there isn’t any. Everyone explained the problem with the wording calmly, some with cites of historical precedent, and I think nobody here thinks that @XT really had racist intentions, but that it was an honest mistake out of ignorance, which @XT conceded and promised to avoid that wording in the future, which is a rational and noble reaction. You don’t see many people admitting their own faults very often on this board. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/33 "2022-02-09T10:52:05Z")
White supremacists are vermin. Nazis are vermin. Rapists are vermin. None of those are ethnic or racist statements. Maybe they’re dehumanizing, but I don’t really think it’s wrong to rhetorically dehumanize the scum of the earth. Russians are not vermin. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/34 "2022-02-09T13:01:51Z")
I think the word is fine when referring to those who choose to hold repugnant beliefs and exhibit hatred for others. But when it refers to people because of race, religion, color, nationality, or sexual preference then it becomes quite offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/35 "2022-02-09T13:10:07Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Is it gross and offensive _only_ in this context? If the status were reversed, would it be more acceptable? Are you asking me as the representative of all things linguistic? The representative of the SDMB? As is always the case, acceptable language is based entirely upon context and community. As pointed out above, calling white supremacists insects would indeed be insulting and dehumanizing. In this particular community I doubt many people would notice or take offense. My brain would probably say, “Nazis are insects, that checks out” and gloss right over it. Objectively I would agree that a best practice for dismantling this kind of language would be to avoid calling **any** humans insects. Final thought: pointing out past instances of a Bad Thing as an argument against doing less of that Bad Thing is exactly how injustices become systemic injustices. “This is the way it’s always been” has never been a good argument for reinforcing a practice, no matter what Tevye says. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/36 "2022-02-09T14:54:36Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > White supremacists are vermin. Nazis are vermin. Rapists are vermin. None of those are ethnic or racist statements. Maybe they’re dehumanizing, but I don’t really think it’s wrong to rhetorically dehumanize the scum of the earth. > > Russians are not vermin. This. This totally. Context matters. It’s the reason why it’s considered disrespectful to call a person “stupid” if they are mentally impaired, or if a 2-year-old child misspeaks, or a person misunderstands something that wasn’t in their native language. But people won’t bat an eye if someone gets drunk and drives head-on into a school bus and is called stupid. It’s about context, and in this case the context is that it is not acceptable to say that a race or ethnic group is “infesting” something, because it is a historically loaded term **in that context**. And I’ll “pile on” here in saying that it seems clear XT did not mean it as an insult and handled things extremely well in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/37 "2022-02-09T17:18:10Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Russians are not vermin. They may be to Ukrainians, just as Trumpists are to many on this board. If using the word infested when referring to people is considered bad on the board, it should always be bad. Having to figure out which group of people it’s acceptable to refer to that way is a bad rule. If you want to ban the use of infest, just do it across the board. It’s just silly to allow some people to be referred to as vermin but others are off limits. Strange how the groups that are allowed to be referred to as infesting something happen to be the same groups that are disliked by the users on this board. The post by **Cervaise** points out another problem with moderating in Great Debates. Why are so many insults allowed at all in that forum? Debates and arguments are two different things and debates generally don’t devolve into arguments and name calling. That’s specifically why debates have moderators. Tightening up the moderation in GD to make them more like an actual debate would eliminate this problem at the same time. It may even encourage more people to participate in the forum. I know giving Politics and Covid their own forums took a lot of posts out of GD, but it seems it’s to have the lowest new topics count on the board. Often the threads end up being a couple people arguing past each other over and over while everyone else just moves on. ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/38 "2022-02-09T17:21:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Russians are not vermin. Aren’t these particular Russians vermin, though? I honestly don’t know; the OP is suggesting that Russia ethnically cleansed a portion of the Ukraine and sent in settlers to replace them. Based on those statements alone, I’d support calling them vermin, just as much as I’d call squatters in the West Bank. (I don’t know the actual situation there, thus “based on OP’s statements alone” the label “vermin” and the verb “infested” seem perfectly descriptive of subhuman, i.e., less than human, i.e., dehumanized actions. No idea where “racism” surfaces in that, though.) ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/39 "2022-02-09T17:37:57Z")
Just so you know, I never used the word ‘vermin’ wrt Russians or anyone else…that was basically what people associated with my use of the term ‘infested’. I can see the correlation, but that wasn’t the association I was making in my own mind when I used the term. I don’t think the Russian colonists, many of who were forced to colonize a depopulated Ukraine were vermin. If I was going to use that term (which I wouldn’t at this point since all of this seems to trigger a lot of ill will), it would be for the Soviet Communists who both perpetrated ethnic cleansing and forced colonization. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121/40 "2022-02-09T17:39:39Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > If using the word infested when referring to people is considered bad on the board See above > [@Atamasama](#): > > it is not acceptable to say that a race or ethnic group is “infesting” something, because it is a historically loaded term **in that context**. ~Max [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mod-question-about-a-not-warning-in-a-thread/959121.md?page=3)