# Moderation gone mad: Miller **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 29, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910 "2015-09-29T02:48:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/1 "2015-09-29T02:48:40Z")
Not that Tibby minds but [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18725376&postcount=397) warning in response to [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18724781&postcount=362) is madness. My saying that if a vampire approached me and I was eating a T-Bone I’d drive the steak through its heart and kill it would earn me a warning for violent imagery? (Rather than one for being a piss poor joke.) No, Hypothetical person B did not mean B for Bo. It was a completely non-existent hypothetical person wearing a hat in a movie theater and the response was clearly a joke. I understand the op imagines that he is being bullied and unfairly persecuted by mere virtue of being Pitted but that is no reason for the moderation to go over the top as well. Not that one insane warning, or two even, is of any import to any poster that does not routinely behave as a jerk, but really, this one is nuts. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/2 "2015-09-29T03:14:05Z")
I agree, this is pretty obviously a case of **Miller** mistaking **Tibby** ’s intent. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/3 "2015-09-29T03:56:36Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > My saying that if a vampire approached me and I was eating a T-Bone I’d drive the steak through its heart and kill it would earn me a warning for violent imagery? That would be inciting violence against vampires. It would be better to encourage people to have garlic fries with their steaks when dining in movie theaters behind big-hatted vampires, and thereby avoid the potentially dangerous encounter to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/4 "2015-09-29T04:32:11Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Not that Tibby minds but… I’m embarrassed to admit reading ANY of that thread, but I distinctly remember **Tibby** stating pretty clearly that he _would_ mind getting a warning. Something about leaving the board if he were to get one… ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/5 "2015-09-29T04:43:34Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > I’m embarrassed to admit reading ANY of that thread, but I distinctly remember **Tibby** stating pretty clearly that he _would_ mind getting a warning. Something about leaving the board if he were to get one… Not how I read the response. But if **Tibby** does care (and why (s)he would I cannot imagine) even more so. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/6 "2015-09-29T04:53:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Heck, I myself was turned into a head lopping monster and almost got a warning about it (warning: if I ever get a warning, I’m outta here). Hmmm. You _do_ have odd ways of reading things. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/7 "2015-09-29T05:04:18Z")
Can’t say I remember reading that or know where in the thread it is. But [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18725537&postcount=404) was his/her response to the warning. Which I read as understanding that a warning don’t mean shit to someone who does not make a habit of collecting them. It does ruin your perfect record though … there goes Harvard! Still the warning is completely out of bounds. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/8 "2015-09-29T05:35:48Z")
The thing that caught my attention about that warning is the phrasing Tibby used. He said something about "lopping off Bo’s head, " caught a note directly addressed to him, then used the exact same phrase when referring to the hypothetical person and what he would do - "lop off " their head and use their hat as a popcorn bowl. I saw it after he caught the warning, But i wondered if he was trying to be entirely too cute and got busted. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/9 "2015-09-29T12:45:06Z")
No one is _actually_ wishing \*\*Bo \*\*physical harm. Please. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/10 "2015-09-29T12:55:16Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > My saying that if a vampire approached me and I was eating a T-Bone I’d drive the steak through its heart and kill it would earn me a warning for violent imagery? There is far more violent imagery (_Imagery_? That’s really in the board rules?) in the Stupid Gun thread, which gets no moderator attention at all. So, it’s puzzling. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/11 "2015-09-29T12:58:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No one is _actually_ wishing \*\*Bo \*\*physical harm. Please. but if he did get harmed, we’d have to throw the body in the quarry - amiright? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/12 "2015-09-29T13:15:50Z")
_Moderation Gone Mad_ is the obvious sequel series to _Girls Gone Wild_. Or _Bum Fights_, I’m not sure which. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/13 "2015-09-29T14:22:09Z")
And it ties in to _Girls Gone Gone Girl_ and _Bum Fight Club_. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/14 "2015-09-29T14:34:53Z")
I went back and read most of the thread; at least up through the posts in question. I’m just not seeing it as worthy an actual warning. Maybe, at most, a Mod Note “naughty naughty” and an explanation of why but for this one I’m at a loss of understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/15 "2015-09-29T14:53:42Z")
I don’t really like the tone of this thread and that’s kept me from responding. I don’t see any madness in the moderation. That said, I’m not in agreement with it. Let’s look at the facts. A typical pit thread starts. The pittee comes into the thread and says “neener, neener, can’t stop me.” People get a little upset with the pittee’s attitude as much as what he does. Some people think a “getting physical” answer, although in jest, is appropriate. **Miller** puts his foot down and clearly tells everyone that this isn’t going to happen on his watch. Not everyone hears the admonition, actually admonitions, and a few still think dismemberment and sacrifice are appropriate responses. **Miller** is not amused. Along comes **Dseid** who posts a hypothetical situation with 2 actors. Mr. A and Mr. B. Neither are in any way representative of any board member. Mr. A is a victim of Mr. B’s asshatery, literally. Mr. B refuses to remove his hat in a theater blocking patron Mr. A and others from seeing the movie. **Tibby** responds to that post with… \*That’s easy. If I was Person A, I’d lop off Person B’s head and then use her large hat as a popcorn container. Am I the bully in that scenario?..meh, bully’s gotta do what bully’s gotta do.\* The reference in that post was to the theater clown, not anyone on the board whose name might have a B in it. **Tibby** goes a little further with this. _And, of course, now that I’m a Bo-ist, I’d take person B’s head to the quarry after the movie and throw it in._ Again, referring to Mr. B’s severed head and, making a play on the situation, taking the severed head to Bo’s quarry and tossing it in. Bo’s quarry, not Bo’s head. In my opinion, there was no threat against a member of this board in either of those posts. But did \*\*Tibby \*\*go to an area that **Miller** had already put his foot down and said to avoid? But calling that moderator madness taints this thread in such way that I really didn’t want to participate in it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/16 "2015-09-29T14:59:13Z")
_ **MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY!** _ Joke-crushing Monster Mod _ **MADNESS!!!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/17 "2015-09-29T15:35:46Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > But calling that moderator madness taints this thread in such way that I really didn’t want to participate in it. Well good thing you didn’t then. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/18 "2015-09-29T15:38:27Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > No, Hypothetical person B did not mean B for Bo. It was a completely non-existent hypothetical person wearing a hat in a movie theater and the response was clearly a joke. Sorry, **DSeid** , this makes no sense. Your post was rather obviously intended to draw a parallel between person B, who is willfully doing something annoying and refuses to stop, and **Bo**. If your post had absolutely nothing to do with the subject under discussion, it would have been pointless. Yes, **Tibby’s** post was meant as a joke. We don’t think the poster is actually intending to cut anyone’s head off. However, **Miller** had already cautioned people in the thread against violent imagery. From the registration agreement: > [@](#): > > Do not post threats or state or imply that any individual or group is deserving of harm. While clearly not a real threat, **Tibby’s** post can be read as indicating that **Snowboarder Bo** is deserving of harm. In any case, your characterization of this as “moderation gone mad” or “nuts” is needless hyperbole and not the sort of thing that is helpful in getting a resolution to an issue in ATMB. Complaints are allowed, but let’s keep the discussion civil in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/19 "2015-09-29T16:02:57Z")
Mad? _Mad?_ _**I’ll show you mad! [I’LL SHOW YOU ALL!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP2oWvh6I44)**_ ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910/20 "2015-09-29T16:17:36Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Mad? _Mad?_ _**I’ll show you mad! [I’LL SHOW YOU ALL!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP2oWvh6I44)**_ We do try to get him to stay in the Pit as much as possible, though. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moderation-gone-mad-miller/732910.md?page=2)