# Modern day B&W movies?

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**Created:** [September 29, 2006, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599 "2006-09-29T11:30:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/21 "2006-09-29T15:10:13Z")

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[QUOTE=randwill]  
Shadows and Fog  
Stardust Memories  
Manhattan  
Broadway Danny Rose  
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It seems Woody Allen has made more use of B&W in his films than any other recent director.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/22 "2006-09-29T15:17:57Z")

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_The Man Who Wasn’t There_

Was _Shadow of the Vampire_ in black and white?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/23 "2006-09-29T15:21:06Z")

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> Was Shadow of the Vampire in black and white?

Sorry, no. Nifty color wallpaper under the opening credits, too.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/24 "2006-09-29T17:01:35Z")

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_Clerks_ - Kevin Smith’s first feature length film  
_Drive_ - Jefery Levy’s first feature length film  
_Following_ - Christopher Nolan’s first feature length film  
_My Best Friend’s Birthday_ - Quentin Tarantino’s first feature length film  
_She’s Gotta Have it_ - Spike Lee’s first feature length film  
_Stranger Than Paradise_ - Jim Jarmusch’s first feature length film

If you want to be taken seriously as an indie director, you’ve got to go Black & White your first time.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/25 "2006-09-29T23:18:21Z")

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Another Woody Allen – **The Purple Rose of Cairo**

Peter Jackson’s **Forgotten Silver**

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/26 "2006-09-29T23:34:59Z")

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[QUOTE=The Scrivener]  
Another Woody Allen – **The Purple Rose of Cairo**

Peter Jackson’s **Forgotten Silver**  
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Although the films within those films are in B&W, those titles themselves are not.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/27 "2006-09-30T00:53:40Z")

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Jim Jarmusch’s [Dead Man](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112817/) which gives us Johnny Depp in an _interesting_ plaid suit, and Iggy Pop in a prairie dress and bonnet. Good times, weird flick… I think it makes a fabulous double feature with [Ravenous](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129332/) but then again I’ve been told I’m a sicko by persons of reputable judgement… 😛

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/28 "2006-09-30T00:57:15Z")

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The dreary and overrated _Raging Bull_.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/29 "2006-09-30T01:08:10Z")

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[The Last Picture Show](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067328/) (1971)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/30 "2006-09-30T01:08:45Z")

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When the subject of B&W films comes up, I always like to recall the bit [_The Big Picture_](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0096926/) (1989) in which Kevin Bacon plays a young filmmaker whose idealism is slowly chewed up and spit out by Hollywood. He’s telling a group of studio execs about his dream project, and adds that he wants to make it in B&W.

One of the execs claims it’s not possible, because modern projectors can’t show B&W film. It’s a very funny way to demonstrate the exec’s clueless (or lying) obstructionism.

(For non-technically minded Dopers, a film projector, just like a film camera, will project whatever film is put in it.)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/31 "2006-09-30T04:01:21Z")

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**Go Fish** was made in black and white to save money.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/32 "2006-09-30T04:43:40Z")

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**Sin City** …_almost._

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/33 "2006-09-30T10:42:08Z")

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I’m not sure where the cutoff lies, but [In Cold Blood](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0061809/) (1967) was pretty late in the B&W game.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/34 "2006-09-30T11:09:36Z")

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The first one that cam to my mind was _Paths of Glory_. (1957)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/35 "2006-09-30T13:16:25Z")

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[Begotten](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101420/). About as weird as it gets, too.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/36 "2006-09-30T15:41:21Z")

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:smack:

And had I actually learned to read, I would have seen it was mentioned in the OP itself.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/37 "2006-09-30T17:27:10Z")

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**Feature Production in the U.S.**

**Color / B & W**

1940: 16 / 460  
1945: 22/ 328  
1950: 61 / 322  
1951: 78 / 312  
1952: 108 / 216  
1953: 144 / 200  
1954: 157 / 80  
1955: 138 / 98  
1956: 134 / 139  
1957: 99 / 203  
1958: 91 / 164  
1959: 80 / 96  
1960: 77 / 74  
1961: 72 / 78  
1962: 67 / 60  
1963: 76 / 60  
1964: 80 / 58  
1965: 88 / 50  
1966: 115 / 24  
1967: 136 / 7  
1968: 170 / 9  
1969: 171 / 4  
1970: 227 / 1

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/38 "2006-09-30T17:57:50Z")

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Thanks for the data, **Walloon**. Here’s a graph to make the trends clearer:

[http://www.LFexaminer.com/BWcolor.jpg](http://www.LFexaminer.com/BWcolor.jpg)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/39 "2006-09-30T18:00:58Z")

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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]  
Jim Jarmusch’s [Dead Man](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112817/) which gives us Johnny Depp in an _interesting_ plaid suit, and Iggy Pop in a prairie dress and bonnet. Good times, weird flick… I think it makes a fabulous double feature with [Ravenous](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129332/) but then again I’ve been told I’m a sicko by persons of reputable judgement… 😛  
[/QUOTE]

I hated, hated, hated that movie! Arrrgh, thanks ever so much for reminding me of those two hours of my life I’ll never, ever see again.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-day-b-w-movies/374599/40 "2006-09-30T18:47:59Z")

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**Swoon**.

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