# Modern Family, 10/24, Another Halloween ep. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780 "2012-10-25T00:32:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/21 "2012-10-25T23:07:29Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Apparently I didn’t like it either. I posted my second post, moved from computer chair to couch so I could give MF my full attention and promptly went out like a light! I fell asleep too. It’s very rare for me to nap during a show but I managed to miss all but the first ten minutes. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/22 "2012-10-26T00:27:49Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I also loved the angel and devil and appreciated that they didn’t explain the joke, they just let it sit there. I was looking down from the TV at the time…got on Hulu and watched it again. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/23 "2012-10-26T01:57:59Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > \ Also, Gloria pegging Manny was funny. \ She…what? I didn’t think it was hilarious, either. Good, but I wasn’t dying laughing. Claire and Phil toning down their Halloween decorations made me sad. Everyone being afraid of Claire anyway was good. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/24 "2012-10-26T01:59:25Z")
> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#): > > I totally don’t think Jay knew about the drag queen. But even if he did know, he would still have enjoyed all the ego massaging being done. > > The show did give me an idea for my Halloween costume; I can go as a lemon! He had no idea. Someone almost told him, but was stopped by his son at the last minute. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/25 "2012-10-26T02:55:47Z")
Who was the kid in the Angel costume? For a second I thought it was Alex until I realized he was a boy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/26 "2012-10-26T04:00:02Z")
Thank you Labrador. I’m glad someone agrees with me. Still can’t get any details as to why people think he knew it was a guy. Lily as Tatoo was really cute. Has the actor who plays Cam really lost weight? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/27 "2012-10-26T12:38:53Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Who was the kid in the Angel costume? For a second I thought it was Alex until I realized he was a boy. Manny called him “Reuben”, but I don’t remember him from a previous episode. Can’t find him on imdb either. And I concur that Jay had no idea about the drag queen. Didn’t they even establish earlier in the episode that Jay needs his reading glasses more often, or was that a different episode? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/28 "2012-10-26T12:47:45Z")
“I’ve seen all seven Police Academy movies.” “Sir, nobody has seen all seven.” ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/29 "2012-10-26T14:31:07Z")
Put me in the camp that Jay had no idea. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/30 "2012-10-26T15:39:04Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Put me in the camp that Jay had no idea. I agree, I don’t think Jay would have been that flattered if it was a guy. Then again, _I_ didn’t know it was a guy, so I can see how I might have missed any clues that Jay gave that he knew. (I was trying to figure out why Cam tried to stop the conversation, but couldn’t figure it out.) ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/31 "2012-10-26T16:07:46Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > She…what? > > I didn’t think it was hilarious, either. Good, but I wasn’t dying laughing. Claire and Phil toning down their Halloween decorations made me sad. Everyone being afraid of Claire anyway was good. 🙂 I liked the utter terror displayed by Claire’s neighbors. Funny! ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/32 "2012-10-26T16:18:45Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > I liked the utter terror displayed by Claire’s neighbors. Funny! “It’s a trap!” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/33 "2012-10-26T16:40:24Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > He had no idea. Someone almost told him, but was stopped by his son at the last minute. Cam was about to tell Jay, but Gloria stopped him and said “he needs this.” ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/34 "2012-10-26T20:25:06Z")
Lily : ARE WE POOR? Why are there giant lollipops in the yard? And why do they taste so bad? Mideval Knevil Cam : Mitchell we need to talk Lily : Uh-ohhhhh ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/35 "2012-10-26T21:41:39Z")
> [@FlyingDragonFan](#): > > I agree, I don’t think Jay would have been that flattered if it was a guy. Then again, _I_ didn’t know it was a guy, so I can see how I might have missed any clues that Jay gave that he knew. (I was trying to figure out why Cam tried to stop the conversation, but couldn’t figure it out.) I have the episode recorded. This is what Jay and the drag queen say when they part: - It was great meeting you, Jay. - You too, Sam. Jay doesn’t look a bit disturbed or surprised; when Cam mentions her, Jay says “I still got it”. Also, Jay’s smart. I’m pretty sure that he would automatically assume that any woman at one of his son and son-in-law’s party’s was probably a man. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/36 "2012-10-26T23:14:13Z")
I always love it when Claire gets a huge comeuppance . . . but not as much as Phil shirtless. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/37 "2012-10-26T23:20:52Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I have the episode recorded. This is what Jay and the drag queen say when they part: > > - It was great meeting you, Jay. > > - You too, Sam. > > Jay doesn’t look a bit disturbed or surprised; when Cam mentions her, Jay says “I still got it”. > > Also, Jay’s smart. I’m pretty sure that he would automatically assume that any woman at one of his son and son-in-law’s party’s was probably a man. The gag makes absolutely no sense if he knows. Sam is often short for Samantha. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/38 "2012-10-26T23:46:08Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > The gag makes absolutely no sense if he knows. > > Sam is often short for Samantha. Oh, come on. The reason the writers gave the character a name largely associated with men is because they wanted to show that Jay knew it was a man. If they had wanted to show that he though it was a woman, they would have given him a more female name, or not bothered to name him at all. And the gag works because it’s a twist on a twist. First Jay flirts with a woman, then we find out she’s actually a man, \*then \*we find out that he both knows and doesn’t care. I thought it was very funny, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/39 "2012-10-27T01:39:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Oh, come on. The reason the writers gave the character a name largely associated with men is because they wanted to show that Jay knew it was a man. If they had wanted to show that he though it was a woman, they would have given him a more female name, or not bothered to name him at all. No, they gave him that name to reinforce Jay’s cluelessness. When he says “Sam”, it’s even funnier. > [@](#): > > And the gag works because it’s a twist on a twist. First Jay flirts with a woman, then we find out she’s actually a man, \*then \*we find out that he both knows and doesn’t care. I thought it was very funny, myself. Nope. He had no clue. I just watched the scene again, and I have no earthly idea where you’re getting this. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780/40 "2012-10-27T01:59:46Z")
> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#): > > Thank you Labrador. I’m glad someone agrees with me. Still can’t get any details as to why people think he knew it was a guy. > > Lily as Tatoo was really cute. > > Has the actor who plays Cam really lost weight? I believe so, at least I noticed him looking a bit slimmer (compared to before) last week. If I’d been around for the thread, I was going to mention it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-10-24-another-halloween-ep/638780.md?page=1)