# Modern Family, Nov. 16, 2011 -- "After The Fire"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 17, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242 "2011-11-17T17:42:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/1 "2011-11-17T17:42:10Z")

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So, what did everyone think of last night’s episode?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/2 "2011-11-17T17:53:05Z")

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I really liked the Jay/Phil story line. It was quite sweet. As horrified as he was to say “I love you” to Phil, you could tell that he realized that really meant it.

Cam and the girls slapstick truck-driving stuff was quite good too. I got a kick out of the gay truck driver coming to rescue.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/3 "2011-11-17T18:06:51Z")

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I didn’t think it was that particularly funny…but a very sweet episode which made me enjoy it anyway.

So I won’t count this as a miss because I thoroughly enjoyed the episode

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/4 "2011-11-17T18:09:05Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Cam and the girls slapstick truck-driving stuff was quite good too. I got a kick out of the gay truck driver coming to rescue.

Yeah, but we are lead to believe that Cam actually does have quite a bit of experience driving large farm vehicles and then he goes and parks it where he can’t get out and then panics? I was disappointed.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/5 "2011-11-17T18:11:27Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Yeah, but we are lead to believe that Cam actually does have quite a bit of experience driving large farm vehicles and then he goes and parks it where he can’t get out and then panics? I was disappointed.

If I recall correctly, Cam was the only one talking up his experience driving truck. He tends to exaggerate.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/6 "2011-11-17T18:34:32Z")

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My favorite line:

“The Native Americans believed that burning sage kept away the bad energy.”  
“How’d that work out for them?”

Manny and Luke are some of the best writing on the show: two characters who are both believable as kids but funny to adults. That’s a hard feat.

Could anybody make out Alex’s shirt? The top said “And God said…” and the bottom line was “…let there be light”, but what was the drawing or chart in the middle? I assume it was something about the physics of light but I’m not familiar with it.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/7 "2011-11-17T19:00:22Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Yeah, but we are lead to believe that Cam actually does have quite a bit of experience driving large farm vehicles and then he goes and parks it where he can’t get out and then panics? I was disappointed.

Yes, when they showed that big truck all parked in like that I was expecting Cam to throw it in reverse and back it out like a pro. I was surprised when he got flustered, I was expecting it to be one of those surprise “flash of competence” moments.

Great way to get Phil and Jay to finally bond a little. Liked that too.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/8 "2011-11-17T19:07:23Z")

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Thought it was one of the strongest episodes of the season.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/9 "2011-11-17T19:49:14Z")

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Alex rescuing the helicopter (and her line to her sister) was great.

Really like it when they show that while Gloria may have a very big personality, she’s not stupid. So her honest rebuttal to Claire was great.

I like that with how hard Phil tries to get Jay to say nice things, and Jay tries to resist, when it happens (the front porch, the massage utterance was kind of weird) it is natural and essentially goes unremarked upon by either.

I really expected the closing tag to be Phil and Claire in bed that night and he casually says “Jay said he loves me.”

Overall a very good episode if not riotously funny.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/10 "2011-11-17T21:24:23Z")

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> Really like it when they show that while Gloria may have a very big personality, she’s not stupid. So her honest rebuttal to Claire was great.

“I’m not even your favorite _Colombian_ in this family.”

[This is the t-shirt](http://www.sacredwaste.com/c/god_said_let_there_be_light_tshirt-p235434228985764367z7tts_400.jpg) Alex was wearing. Can somebody tell me what the formula’s are?

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/11 "2011-11-17T22:42:18Z")

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[Maxwell’s equations](https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Maxwell_equation), which describe electromagnetic waves such as light.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/12 "2011-11-18T13:42:52Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> If I recall correctly, Cam was the only one talking up his experience driving truck. He tends to exaggerate.

Yeah, I always assumed that he was exaggerating his various “farm exploits”. It was hilarious seeing him with Alex and Haley!

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/13 "2011-11-18T13:47:50Z")

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I loved Alex and Haley’s insta-fight to get kicked out of the house.

Luke is my favorite these days- very witty, a perfect Claire-Phil hybrid.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/14 "2011-11-18T14:29:25Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> Yeah, but we are lead to believe that Cam actually does have quite a bit of experience driving large farm vehicles and then he goes and parks it where he can’t get out and then panics? I was disappointed.

I think he got hemmed in after he parked (but I’m not rewatching to confirm).

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/15 "2011-11-18T14:38:15Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I think he got hemmed in after he parked (but I’m not rewatching to confirm).

That’s what was implied by Cam’s line, something like, “Wow, it really got busy.”

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/16 "2011-11-18T14:39:15Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I think he got hemmed in after he parked (but I’m not rewatching to confirm).

Yes, after they came out the girls remarked how crowded the lot had gotten. I think any truck driver would have had trouble getting out - it was only Cam’s insistence he could do it without help that got him in trouble.

I love how they plan episodes so far ahead - up to having Phil mention the wireless printer to Jay while they were filming the ranch episode.

But what the hell was up with the sleep-clown thing ? That was the only bad part of the episode.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/17 "2011-11-18T15:27:29Z")

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So…many…plotlines

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/18 "2011-11-18T15:31:45Z")

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Vindicated 😃

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/19 "2011-11-18T16:46:20Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> But what the hell was up with the sleep-clown thing ? That was the only bad part of the episode.

Though I’ve been telling my daughter, who watches MF with me, not to “sleep clown” when I tell her goodnight.

It passes for humor in our house.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-family-nov-16-2011-after-the-fire/603242/20 "2011-11-18T16:48:05Z")

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Every episode is hilarious. I have yet to be disappointed by this show.

Unrelated (and sorry if there’s a thread about this already) : What happened to the Halloween episode from this season? I was under the impression it was a new one but when I tuned it they were replaying last seasons episode???

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