# Modern Warfare 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 31, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835 "2009-10-31T12:39:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/162 "2009-12-29T22:29:13Z")

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> [@GreedySmurf](#):
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> I got MW2 for Xmas 😃
> 
> I installed it in the afternoon on Boxing Day, and finished the single player in ~5 hours. The actual campaign gameplay itself was good, but I am very disappointed in the length of it.
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> I’ve played a little bit of multiplayer, and the mp system works OK, but I do miss being able to find a couple of favourite servers, and seeing the same people on those servers.
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> My biggest problem with the game though? No lean. I never realised just how much I rely on that ability until you don’t have it anymore. Particualry on urban levels if you want to just peek around a corner to take a shot, and you can’t. :mad:

I spend most of my time in free-for-all. No time to stay in one spot leaning round corners.

You might try ‘prone’.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/163 "2009-12-30T04:30:38Z")

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Strange night. I’ve been out of town for almost a week so I haven’t played much lately. I got on tonight to find that every Team Deathmatch I played, I came in dead last and dragged the team down. Every Free For All I played, I won, first place every time. No idea what that means but it was like clockwork.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/164 "2009-12-30T05:26:33Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> Strange night. I’ve been out of town for almost a week so I haven’t played much lately. I got on tonight to find that every Team Deathmatch I played, I came in dead last and dragged the team down. Every Free For All I played, I won, first place every time. No idea what that means but it was like clockwork.

1. You, sir, are allergic to any kind of teamwork.
2. You, sir, travel with really good players.
3. Jesus hates you.

I’m not sure which.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/165 "2009-12-30T12:11:07Z")

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I’ve been reading that hackers run rampant in MW2. They were very rare in COD4 - in my hundred(s?) of hours playing the game I only spotted maybe 5, and those may have just been ridiculously skilled players that I mistook for an aimbot. But it had built in tools for administrators to monitor players more closely (like getting screenshots as they appear on their client’s computer rather than just an observer view) to check for wallhacks or 3d maps), and then the administrator could submit a ban to a trusted list of known hackers which banned them by CD keys, which good servers then used to preban them. So if you played on quality servers, hacking was non-existant. From what some people are saying now, it’s unusual to not find a hacker in any given game session. You can’t even vote kick them if it’s blatant. What a joke.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/166 "2009-12-30T15:17:28Z")

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I changed my set up to see more than four bars for the ping and it was pretty eyeopening. I can now see that some stuff I had tried to pin on hacks was indeed due to mind numbing lag. There are however hacks out there.

On the plus side I have now earned the double shot-guns, as imbalanced as they are…

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/167 "2009-12-30T15:35:22Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I changed my set up to see more than four bars for the ping and it was pretty eyeopening. I can now see that some stuff I had tried to pin on hacks was indeed due to mind numbing lag. There are however hacks out there.
> 
> On the plus side I have now earned the double shot-guns, as imbalanced as they are…

The double Rangers aren’t too bad. They pack a nice punch , have only 4 shots between the two guns, so you can’t go crazy with them, and their range isn’t too abnormal. The 1887s hold what, 8 shots each, have some insane range for some reason, and are incredibly overpowered. It’s like Gears of War when people stated an online game, the first button they’d hit would be left on the D-pad to switch to their shotgun. People happily run around with their shotguns because they’re so overpowered.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/168 "2009-12-31T18:07:19Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> 1. You, sir, are allergic to any kind of teamwork.
> 2. You, sir, travel with really good players.
> 3. Jesus hates you.
> 
> I’m not sure which.

1. All of the above.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/169 "2009-12-31T20:32:35Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> 1. All of the above.

I’ve been sending out invites a lot (my Gamertag is now “Phil Addio”), so hopefully, our paths shall cross.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/170 "2010-01-02T17:44:23Z")

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Lately I’ve been sucking badly at this game. I started off quite well (consistently coming 2nd,3rd or 4th in Free-for-all). I hope it’s a phase and it’s because I’m experimenting with different tactics. (and because I injured my directional-key hand a few days ago)

I reckon I’d be better if I chose to be one of those tosspots who just go around knifing people but I choose not to.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/171 "2010-01-02T22:58:25Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I’ve been sending out invites a lot (my Gamertag is now “Phil Addio”), so hopefully, our paths shall cross.

Ooohhhh, so that’s you? I’ve gotten invitations to play but didn’t recognize the name at all.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/172 "2010-01-03T00:59:59Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> Ooohhhh, so that’s you? I’ve gotten invitations to play but didn’t recognize the name at all.

You can hop in the backpack. We can carry you to victory, yell at you, and set you right.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/173 "2010-01-08T01:31:15Z")

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Question: If the need should one day take me to have a play at this game with some dopers would the fact that their physical location on the planet is roughly random but weighted towards the US be a problem for lag?

I am guessing that the game, when creating a match, performs some calculations that try to ensure the members of the game are near enough to each other on the planet that the lag is minimal.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/174 "2010-01-08T01:46:53Z")

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Another question: Why are people who play this game so verbally agressive? Perhaps it is age, experience, or some unique quality I posess but I am able to remain polite when I play this game. It takes a truly irritating person to make me resort to namecalling (so far only one type of person - he (or possibly she) who has killed me more than five times with the knife)

A lot of people seem to be overly agressive about very minor things: Like the fact that I run around in good cover so they have difficulty finding me. I never camp. (well I’ll stay in a hidden place if I’m typing something in chat or visually scanning an area for enemies)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/175 "2010-01-08T02:12:49Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> Another question: Why are people who play this game so verbally agressive?

Pretty standard for xbox live, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/176 "2010-01-08T02:14:20Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Pretty standard for xbox live, isn’t it?

Is it?

I’m refering to the PC version BTW.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/177 "2010-01-08T02:34:42Z")

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No idea then, rarely had any issue with the first one - but I hung out on servers generally geared towards more mature players, so it’s an issue that worked itself out. You don’t have that option with this game.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/178 "2010-01-08T03:38:22Z")

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I just rented this one for a couple nights and while the airport mission was certainly tough to watch, I’m not feeling this game. If I had a dollar for every “Where the fuck is the person shooting me from?” death, I’d be a fucking millionaire. It’s like jumping in fresh into a multiplayer with 14 year old kids who’ve been playing the game for a couple years and are hopped up on Mountain Dew and Doritos. I keep fucking dying.

Not feeling it at all.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/179 "2010-01-08T04:06:27Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> Question: If the need should one day take me to have a play at this game with some dopers would the fact that their physical location on the planet is roughly random but weighted towards the US be a problem for lag?
> 
> I am guessing that the game, when creating a match, performs some calculations that try to ensure the members of the game are near enough to each other on the planet that the lag is minimal.

It’s not so bad.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/180 "2010-01-08T04:07:44Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I just rented this one for a couple nights and while the airport mission was certainly tough to watch, I’m not feeling this game. If I had a dollar for every “Where the fuck is the person shooting me from?” death, I’d be a fucking millionaire. It’s like jumping in fresh into a multiplayer with 14 year old kids who’ve been playing the game for a couple years and are hopped up on Mountain Dew and Doritos. I keep fucking dying.
> 
> Not feeling it at all.

That’s why you play with a group of Dopers or other folks. It makes life a whole lot easier, especially when you mute the opposition.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modern-warfare-2/515835/181 "2010-01-08T04:09:05Z")

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Lobsang, what name do you play under when on PC? I use my name from here…

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