# Modest Proposal to Let DACA People Stay

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069 "2017-09-11T17:02:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/41 "2017-09-15T23:12:16Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Here’s a little sampler. And these are all threads he was compelled, as a far left progressive, to actually start- not just things he commented on.
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> Here’s one where as a long time liberal, he wrote the governor to complain that today’s immigrants are freeloaders, not like the immigrants of the olden days.
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19961352&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19961352&postcount=1)
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> Heres one where he takes the position of a far left liberal that hates the Paris Climate Change Accords
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20245348&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20245348&postcount=1)
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> Here’s one where he **wonders why the police just don’t kill criminals while arresting them a little more often**. At least he doesn’t talk about how liberal he is.
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20404424&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20404424&postcount=1)
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> And he started a thread about how people opposed to Confederate memorials **should just suck it up** because they have bigger problems.
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20442031&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20442031&postcount=1)
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> And that didn’t take long - and these are just threads he started. And there’s more, I just don’t have the time.

Uh huh. I think I got the picture. A far rightwing authoritarian fascist troll, pretending to be what he is not.  
In the interest of full disclosure, I am The Red Skull.

Hail Hydra!

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/42 "2017-09-15T23:28:20Z")

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> [@JBGUSA](#):
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> [ol]  
> [li]I’m pro-choice for reproductive rights.[/li][li]I’m in favor of wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone, having scratched the head of an animal closely related to the wolf.[/li][li]I favor full funding of courts and education.[/li][li]I post on StraightDope.[/li][li]I voted for Hillary Clinton.[/li][li]I voted in New York’s Democratic primary yesterday.[/li][/ol]

Not to impugn upon your honesty, but are you _sure_ you post on the Straight Dope?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/43 "2017-09-15T23:37:41Z")

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Here I was expecting it to be about eating people.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/44 "2017-09-15T23:44:59Z")

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I think **SteveG1** is onto something. **JBGUSA-M-O-U-S-E** obviously comes from the Marvel universe where Steve Rogers is a Hydra agent.

None of the 6 things he listed are exclusive to liberal Democrats. I vote we rip his heart out of his chest with a sustainably-mined obsidian knife and see if it bleeds!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/45 "2017-09-15T23:49:31Z")

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> [@JBGUSA](#):
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> [ol]  
> [li]I’m in favor of wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone, having scratched the head of an animal closely related to the wolf.[/li][/ol]

In other words, I’ve pet a dog. Therefore, I am a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![JBGUSA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/258eb7/32.png) [@JBGUSA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBGUSA)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/46 "2017-09-16T00:42:30Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Uh huh. I think I got the picture. A far rightwing authoritarian fascist troll, pretending to be what he is not.

I am liberal on many issues. I just don’t enjoy paying for others’ foolishness.

> [@begbert2](#):
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> Not to impugn upon your honesty, but are you _sure_ you post on the Straight Dope?

I am doing so right now.

> [@silenus](#):
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> I think **SteveG1** is onto something. **JBGUSA-M-O-U-S-E** obviously comes from the Marvel universe where Steve Rogers is a Hydra agent.
> 
> None of the 6 things he listed are exclusive to liberal Democrats. I vote we rip his heart out of his chest with a sustainably-mined obsidian knife and see if it bleeds!

Good one. I’m laughing.

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**Author:** ![JBGUSA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/258eb7/32.png) [@JBGUSA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBGUSA)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/47 "2017-09-16T00:56:40Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> In other words, I’ve pet a dog. Therefore, I am a Democrat.

You’ve got to admit petting a dog the size of a Great Dane or Newfoundland takes courage.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/48 "2017-09-16T02:36:49Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> Here’s a better proposal that solves the main complaint I’ve seen from conservatives.
> 
> We let the Dreamers continue to dream but at least one of the parents (because this is clearly the only way these children are brought to the US) must give up a hand as punishment. I would suggest their life but I’m a compassionate guy.

That’s kind of harsh. I’d be okay with letting them stay, as long as they (and their younger legal citizen siblings) could never aid their undocumented parents in staying/becoming citizens. Their parents are the ones who screwed up and shouldn’t be allowed favoritism because of leniency shown to their child/ren.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/49 "2017-09-16T03:17:27Z")

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> [@JBGUSA](#):
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> You’ve got to admit petting a dog the size of a Great Dane or Newfoundland takes courage.

You take that back. My Newfie would be insulted if he could wake up long enough to care.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/50 "2017-09-16T03:20:56Z")

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Well, if it were an authentic Modest Proposal™, it would involve eating said children or their parents.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/51 "2017-09-16T05:13:24Z")

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nm, I’ll regret it

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/52 "2017-09-16T17:29:43Z")

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> [@JBGUSA](#):
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> You’ve got to admit petting a dog the size of a Great Dane or Newfoundland takes courage.

?

Not sure that I would admit that. I mean, sure, if they are being aggressive, but then, that’s not courage, that’s stupid.

If you are scared of dogs, then I will admit that it took _you_ courage to pet a large dog.

But, most people that are not scared of dogs would not consider it to be any sort of courageous act to pet a dog that is not being aggressive or hostile.

You think petting them takes bravery, try clipping their nails sometime. (or brushing their teeth, giving them a bath, blowing them dry with 700 mph forced air)

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/53 "2017-09-16T17:46:58Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> My Newfie would be insulted if he could wake up long enough to care.

Now, now - petting a newfie does entail very serious risk of being drowned in a deluge of happy drool ;).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/54 "2017-09-16T17:51:58Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Well, if it were an authentic Modest Proposal™, it would involve eating said children or their parents.

For times when you REALLY feel like having Mexican…

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/55 "2017-09-17T12:52:42Z")

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> [@JBGUSA](#):
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> [ol]  
> [li]I’m pro-choice for reproductive rights.[/li][li]I’m in favor of wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone, having scratched the head of an animal closely related to the wolf.[/li][li]I favor full funding of courts and education.[/li][li]I post on StraightDope.[/li][li]I voted for Hillary Clinton.[/li][li]I voted in New York’s Democratic primary yesterday.[/li][/ol]

OK, you got a few issues in which you agree with the Democrats,and you realized that Trump is an idiot and that given the politics of New York who wins the Republican primary is irrelevant. At best you are a highly conservative Democrat.

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**Author:** ![JBGUSA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/258eb7/32.png) [@JBGUSA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBGUSA)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/56 "2017-09-18T02:08:35Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> If you are scared of dogs, then I will admit that it took _you_ courage to pet a large dog.
> 
> But, most people that are not scared of dogs would not consider it to be any sort of courageous act to pet a dog that is not being aggressive or hostile.

Have you ever seen a Newfoundland or Golden Retriever that was not? The last one whacked me hard with his tail.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You think petting them takes bravery, try clipping their nails sometime. (or brushing their teeth, giving them a bath, blowing them dry with 700 mph forced air)

Never tried it, even on the German-shepherd size poodle I had from ages 17-21.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> OK, you got a few issues in which you agree with the Democrats,and you realized that Trump is an idiot and that given the politics of New York who wins the Republican primary is irrelevant. At best you are a highly conservative Democrat.

I am hardly conservative. I am liberal enough that about the most profound thing I say in public is “the people united will never be defeated.” Or throwing urine at police officers.

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**Author:** ![JBGUSA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/258eb7/32.png) [@JBGUSA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBGUSA)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/57 "2017-09-18T02:09:36Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Now, now - petting a newfie does entail very serious risk of being drowned in a deluge of happy drool ;).

The last time I tried it I was slammed with its tail and it leaned its head hard enough against my thigh I feared I would fall over.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/58 "2017-09-18T02:17:13Z")

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Now you’re not even _pretending_ to be sincere.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/59 "2017-09-18T02:23:01Z")

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> [@JBGUSA](#):
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> The last time I tried it I was slammed with its tail and it leaned its head hard enough against my thigh I feared I would fall over.

Oh, the humanity.

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**Author:** ![JBGUSA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/258eb7/32.png) [@JBGUSA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBGUSA)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/modest-proposal-to-let-daca-people-stay/796069/60 "2017-09-18T02:55:42Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Now you’re not even _pretending_ to be sincere.

It was apparently demanding to be petted. I don’t know what it would have done if I refused the demand.

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