# Mods banning people when they seem to have offered another chance? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 19, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140 "2012-09-19T04:23:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/21 "2012-09-19T16:11:07Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > No, you need to wonder if I know what the word “warning” means. The definition you’ve just given doesn’t correspond to any sane definition that I’ve been aware of. A Warning serves two purposes. The first is, of course, to immediately\* inform the violator they are misbehaving and to stop the misbehavior. The second purpose is to **publically** acknowledge the misbehavior so everyone else can see that the behavior is unacceptable and has been sanctioned. If the public element were not part of it, it could all be done by PM. That public part is a _warning_ for everyone else in the thread, “Do not do this”. And, as **Colibri** said, our terminology is a little off. > [@](#): > > I wanted to argue simply that a giving a “Warning” isn’t a very meaningful thing to do if a poster can get banned following one, even without any further actions at all by the poster. The notions described by **Miller** seem capricious to me. Think of it this way. A cop gives you a speeding ticket. You go to court. The judge sees that you’ve gotten 7 speeding tickets in the last month, he decides to revoke your license. There wasn’t another action by you between that ticket and the judge revoking your license, the ticket was for the immediate infraction and the revoking of the driver’s license was after evaluating the cummulative circumstances. The Warning dropped in the thread is for the immediate infraction. That triggers the mods to do the background evaluation of cummulative circumstances, which can spawn further action. Usually if the poster is a regular, been posting for a while, etc, then the results of those background discussions will involve a stepwise process of suspension, followed by another Warning that reminds the person they are on thin ice, and finally the last Warning that causes the ban. With the suspension and again with the ban, there will typically be a post in ATMB announcing the action and why. If a poster is a spammer, sock, or troll, that process may be shortened. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/22 "2012-09-19T16:14:42Z")
It’s also worth noting that after the warning given, cynyc went on to post this: [Heil Twickster! - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=665900) which is far more offensive than the Hebe thing. Also they were obviously making shit up, whether that is due to insanity or trollishness or some other reason it’s not really helpful, especially about an emotive subject like 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/23 "2012-09-19T16:32:15Z")
Nobody gets bannned withou ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/24 "2012-09-19T16:38:42Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > It reminds me of the horror stories we used to read about all the people disappearing in Argentina in the Juan Peron days. [pedant]Marley and Alice have already addressed the um, silliness of this, but as a point of information the people disappearing in Argentina where overwhelmingly nothing to do with Juan Peron, who died in 1974. See [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War).[/pedant] ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/25 "2012-09-19T16:41:10Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > It reminds me of the horror stories we used to read about all the people disappearing in Argentina in the Juan Peron days. As much as we might like to apply the old electrodes to some of our spammers and trolls, we haven’t figured out how to do that through the internet. Yet.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/26 "2012-09-19T16:51:13Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Nobody gets bannned withou Wow. Talk about bringing the hammer down swiftly. Bannned in mid-word. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/27 "2012-09-19T16:54:47Z")
I see dead people. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/28 "2012-09-19T17:04:52Z")
BoyoJim is not banned. Yet. He is, however, playing games with his Custom User Title to mess with you. Jim, don’t make us have to do something about it. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/29 "2012-09-19T17:59:25Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Jim, don’t make us have to do something about it. What exactly would that be? Refunding the $$ he paid to have a custom title and not letting him use one anymore? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/30 "2012-09-19T18:05:56Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > What exactly would that be? Refunding the $$ he paid to have a custom title and not letting him use one anymore? I started [another ATMB thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=666009) to discuss this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/31 "2012-09-19T18:51:01Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The “jury of their peers” part could get interesting… Just imagine a transcript of the deliberations… ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/32 "2012-09-19T19:22:33Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > As much as we might like to apply the old electrodes to some of our spammers and trolls, we haven’t figured out how to do that through the internet. > > Yet.😉 I’m working on it, though. I’m working on it. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/33 "2012-09-19T19:41:50Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I’m working on it, though. I’m working on it. Oooo, ooooh! Can I sit at the controls and turn up the shock knob to 11? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/34 "2012-09-19T19:53:38Z")
No, that’s MY job. Unless you come up with a device that lets us do this…in which case we’ll make you a mod or even an admin. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/35 "2012-09-19T20:00:55Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > No, that’s MY job. Unless you come up with a device that lets us do this…in which case we’ll make you a mod or even an admin. 😉 I can do it for sure with a specially designed i/o device. The problem is who is going to buy something designed to electrocute them? Well, there’s always the masochist market… perhaps combining it with an anal probe will add value to it. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/36 "2012-09-19T23:51:59Z")
Red’s positive, Black’s negative. Be sure to wet their balls with salt water before throwing the switch. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/37 "2012-09-20T02:32:10Z")
I was planning on using nipples as the attachment points. Not everyone has balls, and it’s so time consuming to find ovaries. Nearly everyone has nipples, though. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/38 "2012-09-20T02:35:03Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > And I need to wonder where the Alice-in-Wonderland logic here is coming from. Post #20. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/39 "2012-09-20T02:35:18Z")
Everyone has an asshole too. And a good half of them ARE assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140/40 "2012-09-20T14:00:06Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > If the mods have sufficient log-in and posting records, they might note that I (mostly) left this board earlier this year for several months, after **yakuza** got disappeared, IIRC. People were actually engaging him in his … unconventional … discussions. Yeah, he had a few warnings and mod notes. And then one day, without any obvious notice, he was just banned. I looked for banning notices or any final obnoxious posts in all this threads, and couldn’t find any. To go back to this: while I don’t really agree with your take on ‘obvious notice,’ you can always ask us why someone has been banned if you don’t see an announcement. We don’t announce certain types of bans (trolling, socking, or sometimes bans of very short-term posters), but you can ask us what happened and we’ll tell you. We just ask that people not start thread about posters who are banned without announcements. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-banning-people-when-they-seem-to-have-offered-another-chance/635140.md?page=3)