# Mods, can't you tell Snowboarder Bo to shut up?

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**Created:** [January 14, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483 "2012-01-14T05:02:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/121 "2012-01-15T01:32:50Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Fuck, I’m going to keep doing it until he stops doing it, or the mods tell us to knock it off (tho as I said only in political threads since he’s not doing it in every thread he posts in either). What happens if every poster here starts every thread with some meaningless catchphrase? Will all the “What, me worry?” people still be perfectly happy with said practice? I’m curious to find out.

So, you’re saying that you intend to continue your practice until it provokes a reaction from me, the mods or the board in general?

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/122 "2012-01-15T01:46:31Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> This board is moderated. If someone is doing something obnoxious and refusing to stop, it is perfectly reasonable to ask the mods to handle it, especially if this behavior is similar to obnoxious behavior by other posters that has been curbed by mods in the past.

Do you really want to post in a board modeled on such a police/nanny (depending on your political persuasion) state? I don’t, especially since there is an individual option to deal with the situation without invoking a board-wide prohibition.

> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> But if you think one of those conversations isn’t a couple of catty women talking smack about every other woman’s dress, then you and I clearly go to different cocktail parties. 😉

As do you and I. Generally they mock each other’s investment decisions _soto vocce_ and their taste in men openly. But then, they are usually well dressed.

> [@Steophan](#):
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> The threads you mention are the evidence of the disruption you’re causing. …  
> Maybe it’s not your responsibility that people objected in the first place, but now that it’s been pointed out that it’s objectionable, if you post it again you do so knowing it will cause disruption.

No, those threads are evidence of disruption others are causing.

Dear heaven, listen to yourselves.

Snowboarder should be silenced so you don’t have to hit ignore.

Snowboarder is to blame for others’ actions.

The Mods should silence Snowboarder because he offends your idea of what this board should be.

And, by the way, women are catty bitches who only care about clothes.

Why don’t you all just stand proud and say he should know his place?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/123 "2012-01-15T01:59:40Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> But Snow-Bo: it’s not sufficiently funny. It reads like a non-sequitar, something which is funny once or maybe twice. It’s not funny 27 times (I know - it only _feels_ like you’ve posted it that much.) It also looks like you’re trying to launch a meme. But the meme isn’t good enough.

I think you’re confused about what a meme is. Bo has absolutely created a meme; it just might be a relatively short-lived one.

It’s your opinion Bo’s catch phrase isn’t funny. Some of us have spoken up to say we think it is.

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> It’s way better when posters simply yield to reasonable concerns.

That’s true.

But less than “way better” does not necessarily mean “OMG it’s not teh funny we must Get the MODZ to ACT!!!11111 _froth_”

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/124 "2012-01-15T02:08:08Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> But less than “way better” does not necessarily mean “OMG it’s not teh funny we must Get the MODZ to ACT!!!11111 _froth_”

I think i see why you find **Bo** ’s catchphrase funny.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/125 "2012-01-15T02:08:34Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Fuck, I’m going to keep doing it until he stops doing it,

Don’t you understand? If you keep it up it will be YOU and others like you that launch the meme. It will bleed over to posts outside of the ones made by our slope carving friend. The phrase will become a reference to the fruferall that you seem dead set on feeding. If this becomes a meme, it will be your fault - not his.

Call it the Barbara Streisand effect on unintended consequences. The more you complain, the more people are going to be familiar with it. That’s how memes start.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/126 "2012-01-15T02:09:47Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Call it the Barbara Streisand effect on unintended consequences. The more you complain, the more people are going to be familiar with it. That’s how memes start.

Yep. Ignoring it is probably the best strategy for people who hate it.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/127 "2012-01-15T02:11:34Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Fuck, I’m going to keep doing it until he stops doing it, or the mods tell us to knock it off (tho as I said only in political threads since he’s not doing it in every thread he posts in either). What happens if every poster here starts every thread with some meaningless catchphrase? Will all the “What, me worry?” people still be perfectly happy with said practice? I’m curious to find out.

You’re doing it just to get a rise or reaction out of people, he wasn’t. What you plan to do us about eleventy billion times more annoying and might be against board rules, i.e. the t-word.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/128 "2012-01-15T02:29:27Z")

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You can’t force a meme on your own. They just happen naturally, and usually by the community at large – Otherwise, it usually goes limp and backfires.

Whether the reaction here are the squeaky wheels over-reacting, herd mentality, or a legitiment complaint that represents the majority; by this time, had I attempted something similar, I would have knocked it off lest I just appear spiteful or stubborn.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/129 "2012-01-15T02:34:40Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> So, you’re saying that you intend to continue your practice until it provokes a reaction from me, the mods or the board in general?

I’m going to keep doing it for the hell of it.

That’s how this kind of thing works, doesn’t it? Why should I give the slightest shit about what other people feel about the practice and how it affects their board experience? Empathy and consideration-what are those but quaint and outmoded concepts?

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Don’t you understand? If you keep it up it will be YOU and others like you that launch the meme. It will bleed over to posts outside of the ones made by our slope carving friend. The phrase will become a reference to the fruferall that you seem dead set on feeding. If this becomes a meme, it will be your fault - not his.
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> Call it the Barbara Streisand effect on unintended consequences. The more you complain, the more people are going to be familiar with it. That’s how memes start.

It’s too late for that-it’s already affected my enjoyment of the board-that horse left the barn long ago. The Dope has been attractive to me precisely because I don’t have to endure a lot of the crap that I see in the other dank dark corners of the ol’ 'net (with some exceptions which have been banned of late, tho some remain, sadly).

> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> You’re doing it just to get a rise or reaction out of people, he wasn’t. What you plan to do us about eleventy billion times more annoying and might be against board rules, i.e. the t-word.

I don’t care about motivations-it’s results that matter to me. Because I am willing to be honest and admit it, I get eviscerated while he gets off scot-free because he insists that his little phrase is completely innocuous? A troll and a true believer (like **Starving Artist** -note to the mods that for the purposes of discussion I have hung the latter label on him, not the former) are effectively the same, in the end analysis, and should be moderated exactly the same, if their effects on board culture are identical.

Never mind that, I can’t believe you could possibly be naive enough to believe that there isn’t even a remote chance that he isn’t being deliberate at all about this.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/130 "2012-01-15T02:35:25Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Bo has absolutely created a meme

No he hasn’t.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/131 "2012-01-15T02:37:50Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Get a grip, people.

I think they’d rather get a gripe.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/132 "2012-01-15T02:44:15Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Never mind that, I can’t believe you could possibly be naive enough to believe that there isn’t even a remote chance that he isn’t being deliberate at all about this.

Of course there’s a chance **Bo** is being deliberately annoying, but he  
has plausible deniability, while you admit you’re being deliberately annoying. If you want people to see your POV, you’re doing it wrong.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/133 "2012-01-15T02:58:18Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Well, if it’s a Vicodin day it’s not as painful as it could be…

How many Vicodins would it take for you to go to the quarry and throw some stuff there?

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/134 "2012-01-15T03:07:57Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> Of course there’s a chance **Bo** is being deliberately annoying, but he has plausible deniability, while you admit you’re being deliberately annoying. If you want people to see your POV, you’re doing it wrong.

Absolutely. And the thing is that this ATMB thread has backed **Bo** into a corner. He _can’t_ back down now. If it was just the pit thread, he could back down and quit posting it and admit it’s a bad joke he’s overly fond of. However, now he’s being called a troll in ATMB. If he backs down over that accusation it is tantamount to admitting he’s trolling. There is no way he is going to do that.

The people who are complaining in ATMB about this have guaranteed we will hear this lame ass joke again. We will probably hear it a lot. Hell, I _hate_ memes, but I’m tempted to use it myself. It wasn’t funny when it started, but as the controversy grows and grows it gets funnier and funnier.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/135 "2012-01-15T03:24:52Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> I think you’re confused about what a meme is. Bo has absolutely created a meme; it just might be a relatively short-lived one.

“Meme” is such a cool idea that it’s a shame to fuck it up like this.

A meme is a self-reproducing thought-virus. It shows up in someone’s head and hijacks their communication organs to reproduce itself in someone else’s head, then hijacks THEIR communication organs . . . before you know it, you’re wondering “Where’s the beef?”, you’re using the word “y’all,” you’re humming “duh duh duh DUH,” and you’ve told people that Chuck Norris doesn’t sleep, he waits.

Strictly speaking, any idea that is in any way repeated by more than one person is a meme. But usually we use the idea to reference highly successful memes, ones that successfully infect a high percentage of their victims and use those victims’ communication organs for reproduction.

I’m on a one-man crusade to prevent the obnoxious twisting of the word’s meaning into “a political idea I disagree with” (e.g., “What’s with this meme that all government is bad?”) But this use of the term, making it essentially synonymous with “catchphrase,” is at least as bad.

FWIW, **Snowboarder** , count me as another one who finds the schtick lame. It’s not catching on, it’s just making people think less of you. OTOH, I never would have posted in this thread if I hadn’t seen this abominable use of the word “meme”; I don’t care enough about the underlying rage :).

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/136 "2012-01-15T03:31:42Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I’m going to keep doing it for the hell of it.
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> That’s how this kind of thing works, doesn’t it?

Yes. And I will small - “i” ignore you - other than thinking "It would be funnier if he said ‘Wat’ry tart’ ", unless it really annoys me some day, then I will capital “I” ignore you. I certainly will not Pit you, or complain to the Mods about something I can easily take care of myself.

\*\*\*That’s \*\*\*how this kind of thing should work.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/137 "2012-01-15T03:32:21Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Absolutely. And the thing is that this ATMB thread has backed **Bo** into a corner. He _can’t_ back down now. If it was just the pit thread, he could back down and quit posting it and admit it’s a bad joke he’s overly fond of. However, now he’s being called a troll in ATMB. If he backs down over that accusation it is tantamount to admitting he’s trolling. There is no way he is going to do that.
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> The people who are complaining in ATMB about this have guaranteed we will hear this lame ass joke again. We will probably hear it a lot. Hell, I _hate_ memes, but I’m tempted to use it myself. It wasn’t funny when it started, but as the controversy grows and grows it gets funnier and funnier.

Yup, I’m tempted to start throwing things in quarries myself now.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/138 "2012-01-15T03:32:42Z")

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Couple of things… just because you _can_ do something, doesn’t mean you should. And I’ve never understood people who find shit funny (and further, encourage it) just because it pisses others off. This whole thing is simply bizarre.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/139 "2012-01-15T03:34:50Z")

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I admire how hard he is fighting for his right to make a complete ass out of himself.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-cant-you-tell-snowboarder-bo-to-shut-up/609483/140 "2012-01-15T03:44:08Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Couple of things… just because you _can_ do something, doesn’t mean you should. And I’ve never understood people who find shit funny (and further, encourage it) just because it pisses others off. This whole thing is simply bizarre.

It’s not to piss people off, exactly. It’s to poke them a bit, smile, and ask them why they take life so [seriously](http://xkcd.com/291/).

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