# Mods upgrading insults then issuing warnings. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 17, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308 "2012-12-17T15:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/1 "2012-12-17T15:01:51Z")
I don’t want to start any trouble, but there was a non-warning issued to in the CS Gangnam Style thread that gave me pause: > [@Oppa Gangnam Style - awesome Korean music video](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oppa-gangnam-style-awesome-korean-music-video/630919/215): > > > [@Oppa Gangnam Style - awesome Korean music video](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oppa-gangnam-style-awesome-korean-music-video/630919/209): > > > > Get bent. You know what I mean. I’m not discussing this further. > > Although “get bent” is a nicer way of saying it, telling someone to “get fucked” is out of line in Cafe Society. Don’t do this again. > > **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator But he didn’t say “get fucked,” he said “get bent.” Granted **Leaffan** ’s post had no place in CS and **twickster** didn’t issue a formal warning, but I think slapping a Doper making a milder version of an insult _for_ that insult sets a bad precedent. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/2 "2012-12-17T16:05:01Z")
So he said something out of line in CS, and I told him not to do it … why is this a problem? ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/3 "2012-12-17T16:16:24Z")
I guess the OP wants to know where the line is. What if the original comment wasn’t “get bent” but “take a hike” or “get lost”? Is that over the line? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/4 "2012-12-17T16:25:11Z")
I concur with **Agent Foxtrot** that raping Dopers for mild insults is uncalled for, but I disagree with his implication that it’s worse than the Holocaust. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/5 "2012-12-17T16:31:10Z")
The problem is that mods need to be able to enforce the rule against insults but often to do so have to assume what the poster is thinking. A warning to me triggered two ATMB threads which started in part with a mod assuming what I was doing. It went basically like this: Mod1: Warning for insulting another member. Me: I wasn’t insulting another member. Mod1: Yes you were. Me: No I wasn’t. I was alluding to a famous SD meme. Mod2: That meme is based on insulting a member. Your allusion to it indirectly insults that member. Me: Bullshit. You can’t read my intentions like that. \ Mod1: You still get the warning for violating my instructions in the thread not to bring up TPR. Me: Fair enough and I accept the warning on those terms and not that I insulted another member. Mod1: I still think you insulted them. Me: :rolleyes: So basically Mods assume they can read your mind so me saying “Go flagitate yourself.” will be interpreted as “Go fuck yourself.” even if I meant to whip yourself in the manner of someone doing penance as sarcasm for “Don’t be a martyr.” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/6 "2012-12-17T16:33:52Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > I guess the OP wants to know where the line is. What if the original comment wasn’t “get bent” but “take a hike” or “get lost”? Is that over the line? Do you regard “take a hike” or “get lost” as euphemisms for “get fucked”? [Urban dictionary](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=get%20bent) and the [Online Slang Dictionary](http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/get-bent) agree that that’s the basic meaning of “get bent.” This said, if someone told another poster to “take a hike” or “get lost” in GQ I would regard that as being unnecessarily hostile and tell them to dial it back. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/7 "2012-12-17T16:39:12Z")
So, quoting Unca Cece, would “get attached with rotary fasteners” be acceptable? ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/8 "2012-12-17T18:35:43Z")
Doper: You’re such a doof. Mod: Doper, saying “you’re such a doof” is a nicer way of saying “you’re such a dick.” I’m issuing you a warning for calling another poster a dick outside of the Pit. See what I’m saying? ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/9 "2012-12-17T18:43:29Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > So he said something out of line in CS, and I told him not to do it … why is this a problem? IMO, “get bent” is indeed over the line in CS, and it’s absolutely appropriate for a mod to call out a poster for saying it. But to first re-phrase the offending comment in a much _more_ offensive manner was unnecessary, and frankly I’m not sure what you may have been trying to accomplish by doing so. For what it’s worth, I rarely chime in on these kinds of threads, but this one leaves me scratching my head. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/10 "2012-12-17T18:59:46Z")
I see what you’re saying, but I disagree. **Twickster** did not moderate **Leaffan** at the level for saying “get fucked”. She just explained why “get bent” is not allowed in Cafe Society. She gave him a note, not a warning. You’re overreacting. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/11 "2012-12-17T19:06:30Z")
> [@NitroPress](#): > > So, quoting Unca Cece, would “get attached with rotary fasteners” be acceptable? Would be interesting to see an official mod response to this question. That said…Leaffan was _not_ given an official warning, so I’m calling tempest in a teacup here. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/12 "2012-12-17T19:07:22Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > I don’t want to start any trouble, but there was a non-warning issued to in the CS Gangnam Style thread that gave me pause: > > But he didn’t say “get fucked,” he said “get bent.” Granted **Leaffan** ’s post had no place in CS and **twickster** didn’t issue a formal warning, but I think slapping a Doper making a milder version of an insult _for_ that insult sets a bad precedent. Your thread title was “Mods upgrading insults then issuing warnings.” but she didn’t really ‘upgrade the insult’, you’re not accusing multiple mods and most importantly you mention right in your post that no warning was issued. Wouldn’t you admit that you basically did the same thing as what you’re accusing her of? Changing what someone else did to make it more sensational? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/13 "2012-12-17T19:13:47Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Doper: You’re such a doof. > > Mod: Doper, saying “you’re such a doof” is a nicer way of saying “you’re such a dick.” I’m issuing you a warning for calling another poster a dick outside of the Pit. > > See what I’m saying? No because that’s not what happened. No warning was issued. Instead a note along with an explanation of why the note. I agreed with you that mods may incorrectly “know” what we mean but unless it is an actual warning I would take it as more of friendly advice. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/14 "2012-12-17T20:06:08Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I see what you’re saying, but I disagree. **Twickster** did not moderate **Leaffan** at the level for saying “get fucked”. She just explained why “get bent” is not allowed in Cafe Society. She gave him a note, not a warning. > > You’re overreacting. Well I would have said, “No personal attacks in CS. Stop” instead of “Well that kind of sounds like an insult that’s not allowed, so stop.” In any event, I suppose I technically agree with the OP, but this is such a tiny matter moderationwise\* that meh. In any event, telling people to “get bent” in CS shouldn’t be happening. He was told not to and all is well with the universe. \*Yes, we get that this isn’t worse than the Holocaust, but no one said it is; ATMB is where we question moderator decisions, so here we are. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/15 "2012-12-17T20:53:12Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > \*Yes, we get that this isn’t worse than the Holocaust, but no one said it is; I dare say it is. Only a dozen or so million people got deaded by the holocaust.\*\* twickster\*\* single handedly took away the freedom of speech\* of the entire world. \*To say “get bent” in CS. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/16 "2012-12-17T21:06:09Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > IMO, “get bent” is indeed over the line in CS, and it’s absolutely appropriate for a mod to call out a poster for saying it. It is, and I would be surprised if anyone really thought it’s OK anywhere outside the Pit. It’s an insult and nothing else. I understand the argument that “get fucked” is more severe than “get bent,” but they convey the same idea and neither one is allowed. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/17 "2012-12-17T21:13:09Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > IMO, “get bent” is indeed over the line in CS, and it’s absolutely appropriate for a mod to call out a poster for saying it. > > But to first re-phrase the offending comment in a much _more_ offensive manner was unnecessary, and frankly I’m not sure what you may have been trying to accomplish by doing so. I was explaining, for anyone that might not know, that it was a synonym for “get fucked” and thus unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/18 "2012-12-17T21:26:47Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > \*Yes, we get that this isn’t worse than the Holocaust, but no one said it is; ATMB is where we question moderator decisions, so here we are. No, see, I… I mean, \*\*Foxtrot \*\*was complaining because… \*\*twickster \*\*said that thing, and so I… eh, _nevermind_. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/19 "2012-12-17T21:27:42Z")
I wouldn’t think “get bent” is acceptable either. It seems like a pretty straightforward situation, and I can’t find any fault with **twickster** ’s modding. FWIW, which is not much. By the way, none of this is synonymous with “why do you hate the mods”, no matter what the Urban Dictionary says. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/20 "2012-12-17T22:58:51Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Do you regard “take a hike” or “get lost” as euphemisms for “get fucked”? > > [Urban dictionary](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=get%20bent) and the [Online Slang Dictionary](http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/get-bent) agree that that’s the basic meaning of “get bent.” > > This said, if someone told another poster to “take a hike” or “get lost” in GQ I would regard that as being unnecessarily hostile and tell them to dial it back. You know any nutcase can enter definitions at UD right? I’ve seen it used as jokes for people at other venues by people who deliberately made up the entries. Please, let’s not go there in citing meanings. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308.md?page=2)