# Mods upgrading insults then issuing warnings. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 17, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308 "2012-12-17T15:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/41 "2012-12-18T15:48:45Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Of course, he and I were good all along, as far as I know. No complaints from me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/42 "2012-12-18T15:55:10Z")
Not an earth shattering issue, but it would have been better if the mod had just said to knock off the personal attack. “Get bent”, whatever it means, is not appropriate outside the Pit. But, given the common meaning of the phrase, I don’t see a problem here. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/43 "2012-12-18T16:37:18Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > He was more interested in the idea that maybe, since Twickster took the time to ‘upgrade the insult’, that there was a possibility that in the future a poster might say, “you suck” and get warned for 'saying the equivalent of ‘you can suck my dick and lick my hairy balls’. As I have explained multiple times, **twickster** did not “upgrade the insult”, she did not “thought mod”. She moderated the insult that was actually given. In the process, she added an explanation of the meaning of the insult, but also stated it was a milder form of that meaning. But the “punishment” dished out was appropriate for the actual violation, and not some “upgraded” violation. The question the OP posted didn’t happen, there is no issue for the mods to address because they didn’t do what they are accused of doing. > [@](#): > > He just wanted to discuss that aspect. He wasn’t complaining. “… but I think slapping a Doper making a milder version of an insult _for_ that insult sets a bad precedent” sounds like a complaint to me. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/44 "2012-12-18T18:43:54Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I will simply say that there is. no. issue. The question was about the way that Twix gave you the ‘don’t do this again’. It’s not an issue. It’s a question. My question is, "why did you decide to mention that get bent was another way of saying ‘get fucked’? Is it an indication that we posters may say things sometimes that you will interpret as a harsher term? > > If Twix would have said, “Oh, no. I don’t intend to reinterpret phrases when I’m modding…this really was more about him saying something not fit for CS in general…would have been the same if he said, ‘get lost’.” I would have been clear. > > But instead of that everyone started focusing on the fact that it’s not a big deal, there wasn’t a warning, etc. I think it is not a big deal because the Mod was correct in the interpretation of “get bent” and by just a note if the bender come back and said that that interpretation was not intended then everyone is on the same page and no harm no foul. As being in the center of one of these “Mod thinks I meant something I didn’t mean” contraversies there is no reason to question the mod interpretation. You are correct in that if the Mod explained that “get bent” means “get bent over and take it hard like the Bitch you are” and tells the bender that they have insulted women, homosexuals and chia pets that we have to examine how that Mod is interpreting members’ post regardless of the Mod issuing a note or warning. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/45 "2012-12-18T19:06:48Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I see you’re misrepresenting the situation once again, just as you did in the thread title. “Doof” is not in any way a euphemism for “dick,” so your example fails. Fine. Substitute “dick” for “idiot,” “moron,” or “stupid asshole.” Same point. On edit, yes, **Nzinga, Seated** did interpret my OP correctly, but yes, things were blown a little out of proportion. I was just looking for some intelligent discussion on the matter and perhaps a clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/46 "2012-12-18T19:12:43Z")
And for the record, I wasn’t challenging **twickster** ’s ruling. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/47 "2012-12-18T21:00:49Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > **Nzinga** , “get bent” means “get fucked,” not just in my mind but in general slang usage throughout U.S. society… Ya know. When those nasty old frat boys said they got all bent out of shape for what the cops did when they busted the party, I had no idea they meant the cops fornicated with them. I now the headlines read “Cops beat off mob at State,” but I just didn’t put it all together. It wasn’t a handjob after all. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/48 "2012-12-18T21:14:39Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > **Nzinga** , “get bent” means “get fucked,” not just in my mind but in general slang usage throughout U.S. society.\ Thanks, Twicks, I understand that, and agree. I just explained my point poorly, so it sounded like I was challenging your note…sorry it came off that way. I’m not giving you a hard time, I do understand your note. I think a part of my problem was trying to use a shorthand term, (upgrade insult and thought-mod) but I only used those terms as shorthand because my posts were already long and rambling. But, thanks for your response and for all the posters who actually took the time to understand my point, even though it was poorly made. And Agent Foxtrot, I realize you didn’t mean for the OP to get blown out of proportion, but I was off and runnin’ on my own! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/49 "2012-12-18T21:37:59Z")
No prob, **Nzinga** – I think we’ve all made this whole issue way more complicated than it needs to be, given that no one seems to object with the comment having gotten a mod note. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/50 "2012-12-19T00:00:50Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Jeez. I was given a “don’t do this again” for an ambiguous slur, and **I abided…** The Dude posts here! Way kewl! Have a White Russian on me. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/51 "2012-12-19T00:06:42Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Fine. Substitute “dick” for “idiot,” “moron,” or “stupid asshole.” Same point. How about the point where you twice referenced a mod warning when none was issued? You exaggerated to make a point, own it or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/52 "2012-12-19T01:02:35Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > How about the point where you twice referenced a mod warning when none was issued? You exaggerated to make a point, own it or shut up. I mentioned that in post 12. And it’s not just that he did, it’s essentially what he’s accusing Twix of doing. Changing what someone else did to make it a bigger deal. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/53 "2012-12-19T01:19:11Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Can’t we cut to the chase and accuse us of of circling the wagons?? Please. That’s always my favorite part. It depends. Are you now or ever have been bent? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/54 "2012-12-19T02:12:44Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > **Nzinga** , “get bent” means “get fucked,” not just in my mind but in general slang usage throughout U.S. society. I have heard “Get bent” used on TV. If “get bent” means “get fucked”, how can they get away with saying it? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/55 "2012-12-19T03:23:36Z")
> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#): > > I have heard “Get bent” used on TV. If “get bent” means “get fucked”, how can they get away with saying it? Are you kidding? I’ve heard “motherfucker” used on TV. How can they get away with using that? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/56 "2012-12-19T03:37:17Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > … This certainly suggests this is a generally understood meaning even if it might not be as good as Webster’s. Speaking of Webster’s… [Definition of BENT](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bent) > [@](#): > > 1: changed by bending out of an originally straight or even condition \ > 2: strongly inclined: determined —usually used with on \ > 3: slang > a : different from the normal or usual > b chiefly British : dishonest, corrupt — bent out of shape: extremely upset or angry > > Related to BENT > Synonyms: dishonest [chiefly British], crooked, deceptive, double-dealing, duplicitous, fast, fraudulent, guileful, rogue, shady, sharp, shifty, underhand, underhanded So, whether you mean “fucked” or not, it’s still not a nice thing to call someone. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/57 "2012-12-19T04:42:31Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Ya know. When those nasty old frat boys said they got all bent out of shape for what the cops did when they busted the party, I had no idea they meant the cops fornicated with them. I now the headlines read “Cops beat off mob at State,” but I just didn’t put it all together. It wasn’t a handjob after all. While you’re almost certainly just poking fun, you DO know that “get bent” as an imperative and “being bent out of shape” aren’t the same? Right? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/58 "2012-12-19T04:55:27Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > No. Everyone isn’t. Now, I swear to god, I didn’t care anything about this whole thing one bit, but now I’m digging in my heels because I hate when things are misconstrued. > > The OP wasn’t complaining about your mod note really. He doesn’t really care about whether you got a warning or a note or a banning, or beheading. > > He was more interested in the idea that maybe, since Twickster took the time to ‘upgrade the insult’, that there was a possibility that in the future a poster might say, “you suck” and get warned for 'saying the equivalent of ‘you can suck my dick and lick my hairy balls’. > > He just wanted to discuss that aspect. He wasn’t complaining. He wasn’t white knighting for you. He was curious about that one little detail. > > I really didn’t care much, but now I do, because I hate when a poster has an (to me) interesting question and then a bunch of mods or posters chime in with, 'LOOK, NO ONE WAS WARNED, THE USUAL SUSPECTS CAN DIAL IT BACK A NOTCH AND PUT AWAY YOUR PITCHFORKS BEFORE YOU START ACCUSING US MODS OF CIRCLING THE WAGONS!" > > I understand that I can’t speak for the OP…I am giving my interpretation of the OP, and even if he disagrees with my interpretation, I still can view the OP that way and think my interpretation would have pulled from Twix something like, "Oh, I can see where you are coming from, and yes, if indeed you say ‘you suck’ I will thought-mod that as ‘you can suck my hairy nuts’. Or, "No worries, Nzinga, I will not interpret ‘you suck’ as "you can suck my hairy nuts’. That’s a terrible example. “You suck” is unambiguously an insult and would not be allowed anywhere outside of the Pit. No matter how one interprets it, it would still get a mod note at least, whether the mod “upgraded” it or not. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/59 "2012-12-19T07:03:38Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Can’t we cut to the chase and accuse us of of circling the wagons?? Please. That’s always my favorite part. Hey!!! It’s no fun if you say it first ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308/60 "2012-12-19T07:09:21Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Are you kidding? I’ve heard “motherfucker” used on TV. How can they get away with using that? Bent if I know. Of course, there is [precedent](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15322457&postcount=5) for this [discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15322524&postcount=7), if by “precedent” we mean “when **Colibri** did it everything was deemed OK”. Then again, there’s clearly a significant difference, and I’ll leave identifying it and explaining it as an exercise for the student. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-upgrading-insults-then-issuing-warnings/644308.md?page=4)