# Mods, when moderating, could you please post in black and white?

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**Created:** [December 6, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460 "2019-12-06T09:34:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/1 "2019-12-06T09:34:34Z")

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I ask, because I am color-blind, and the recent move towards the red color by the mods, when moderating, makes things difficult to see, for me. In fact, it’s damn near impossible. Can we just go back to:

[Moderating]

That will get you a warning, because something-something-something.

[/Non-moderating]

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/2 "2019-12-06T09:44:52Z")

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They put it in because people asked for it.

Can’t you just set your monitor to greyscale?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/3 "2019-12-06T09:53:31Z")

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I saw this coming, is there a color that would work for the color blind?  
Maybe sienna, sienna is nice…or raw umber.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/4 "2019-12-06T10:01:10Z")

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How about both?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/5 "2019-12-06T10:27:40Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I saw this coming, is there a color that would work for the color blind?

Well, black-on-white works just fine from where I sit. Easy to read.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/6 "2019-12-06T11:04:29Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Easy to read.

Easy to say “I never saw that”, too.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/7 "2019-12-06T11:17:31Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Well, black-on-white works just fine from where I sit. Easy to read.

It’s easy to read if you are reading every post carefully. It’s easy not to notice if you are browsing a longer thread. It’s far easier to notice that there is a mod not on this page if it’s a different color.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/8 "2019-12-06T12:53:59Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Well, black-on-white works just fine from where I sit. Easy to read.

Well, black-on-white doesn’t work just fine from where the mods sit. Easy to miss.  
You could help by telling them what color, other that black, you can see easily _or_ it’ll be red.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/9 "2019-12-06T13:01:08Z")

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**Spoons** , can you actually read the text in red, or does it blend into the background? If you can read it fine, and it’s just that it doesn’t stand out as different than normal text, then ISTM the obvious solution would be to keep it in red text (since many others find that so useful) while still adding the “MODERATING” tags or equivalent. Would that work for you?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/10 "2019-12-06T13:08:01Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **Spoons** , can you actually read the text in red, or does it blend into the background? If you can read it fine, and it’s just that it doesn’t stand out as different than normal text, then ISTM the obvious solution would be to keep it in red text (since many others find that so useful) while still adding the “MODERATING” tags or equivalent. Would that work for you?

I don’t know if this would be helpful to the OP since I’m not colorblind, but, when I’m reading a website that for one reason or another has text that’s abnormally hard to read, I highlight it. If you highlight it, you have highlighted background with the text (almost always) a new color.

Testing this out, on my computer, with my settings, on this page, with the SD theme, red text on a white background, changes to white text on a blue background.

Not the most elegant solution, and it would certainly be easier to have text that’s easier to read in the first place, but possibly a quick workaround.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/11 "2019-12-06T13:35:37Z")

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Heh, I was getting ready to make a thread thanking the mods who have moved to posting in red.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/12 "2019-12-06T13:38:56Z")

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Here’s a colorblind simulator on a mod note:

> **[Colorblind Web Page Filter Testing Tool & Simulator | Toptal®](https://www.toptal.com/designers/colorfilter?orig_uri=https:%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowpost.php?p=22002327&postcount=260&process_type=grey)**
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> Online color filter tool to aid colorblind anomalies. Simply enter a URL and pick a filter. Start now!

Notably, all the major variations of colorblindness except Tritanopia have somewhat hard to read text. Monochromacy is rare, but it’s so faded and gray it’s almost unreadable. In Protanopia it’s this really faded marigold color that is hard to focus on. Deutanopia is a little better but has this odd orange-on-orange look that makes it not stand out very well.

I’m gonna make a rainbow wheel real quick just to do a test:

Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text

Either way, when designing for accessibility, it’s usually best to also give non-color signifies that stand out.

������ For instance surrounding mod action in an emoji (this one is just the first I thought of probably not the best) ������ (E: looks like the board mangles UTF-8 emoji so nm I guess)

Or perhaps underlining all mod text

In **addition** to the coloration would help colorblind and vision impaired users the most.

E: It looks like COLOR=“Blue” is best for most forms, except monochromacy where COLOR=“DarkRed” is best.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/13 "2019-12-06T13:50:45Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> They put it in because people asked for it.
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> Can’t you just set your monitor to greyscale?

You might want to re-read the OP, a little slower this time.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/14 "2019-12-06T14:06:59Z")

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Underlining (as suggested above) or posting in a different/larger font might do the trick.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/15 "2019-12-06T14:11:00Z")

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Are there any colorblind-friendly themes?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/16 "2019-12-06T14:13:42Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> You might want to re-read the OP, a little slower this time.

What do you think I missed?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/17 "2019-12-06T14:14:35Z")

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I think we should bring back the [blink] tag.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/18 "2019-12-06T14:15:47Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> I think we should bring back the [blink] tag.

Enable HTML and use \<marquee\> you cowards

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/19 "2019-12-06T14:38:10Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> What do you think I missed?

OP is colorblind… how did you think it would be helpful for a colorblind person to set their monitor to greyscale?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mods-when-moderating-could-you-please-post-in-black-and-white/844460/20 "2019-12-06T14:45:43Z")

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How many of us are actually using the red color? I know ECG does it. Is anyone else?

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