# Mole II: 07/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123 "2002-07-09T23:26:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/1 "2002-07-09T23:26:20Z")
My Mole suspects: Bill, Heather, and Dorothy. If any of them goes tonight, I’m going to stick with the other two as suspects unless one of the other players does something to pique my suspicion. At least that whiny crybaby Katie and her stuffed cow Meadowmuffin are gone. Your suspects? - s.e. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/2 "2002-07-10T00:07:52Z")
My feeling is that Al and Darwin go all the way, with perhaps one of them being the Mole. Perhaps Bill goes tonight(if he is not the Mole). ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/3 "2002-07-10T00:51:19Z")
Bill or Dorothy, hoping it’s not D, because it’s too obvious. I think Darwin will be the one to go. At least, my bro and I have a bet (he says it’s Heather that will be the next to go, I say it’s Darwin- who knows?). ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/4 "2002-07-10T01:04:06Z")
I’ll be back at 10 EDT to post the spoiler for whoever got executed… Now the fun begins! ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/5 "2002-07-10T02:07:45Z")
[Spoiler]Dude!! I was so right. Maybe I’m the mole. Looks as though I beat you, Scott. 🙂 Somehow I’m not too surprised that Bill chose Dorothy to neutralize. Bill’s code of honor seems to be…shall we say, dwindling? Drunk Al and Heather were pretty funny. 🙂 [/Spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/6 "2002-07-10T02:11:54Z")
OK, so it was: Darwin. I’m not terribly surprised, just annoyed that none of my suspects was executed. So I still hold by my suspects. Comments? ---
**Author:** ![monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/7 "2002-07-10T03:08:53Z")
I was sad to see him go. ☹ As much as I hate to say it now, I’m starting to lean toward Heather as the mole. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/8 "2002-07-10T04:04:54Z")
Okay, I just started watching, so my opinion might not count for much, but I’m not 100% sure they would make Heather the mole, because she really reminds me of Katherine (was that her name?), the mole from last year. Also, I was hearing from all over the place that the person who got kicked off tonight was the mole, so I guess this was a surprise–at least to some. ---
**Author:** ![scott\_evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scott\_evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scott_evil)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/9 "2002-07-10T13:32:14Z")
Possible proof Bill is the Mole? Check [this](http://pub124.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm15.showMessage?topicID=562.topic) thread. Bill is a retired Admiral… Very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Broodha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@Broodha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broodha)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/10 "2002-07-10T13:48:45Z")
My strong hunch is that Heather is the MOLE and that Bribs makes it to the final round. I’m going to stick with that. ---
**Author:** ![Thunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thunder)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/11 "2002-07-10T15:58:18Z")
Well, it’s definately NOT Dorothy. 2 questions on the quiz were designed to make players choose Dorothy as the mole. If the player guessed it was Dorothy, that would be 2 questions wrong and a guaranteed lower score. Methinks Darwin was thinking Dorothy was the mole. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/12 "2002-07-10T18:45:10Z")
I don’t put too much credence in the “hidden word” clues. I think the show’s graphics were designed with a bunch of random words that included the contestants’ names, occupations and questions from the show’s quizzes. The words move around randomly to make interesting patterns. But notice that the names are usually in alphabetical order. And probably designed to be red herrings. I’m still thinking Heather is The Mole. And I’m devastated that Darwin has departed. He was SOOOO Cool! And I’m really sick of Al after that wine scenario last night! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/13 "2002-07-10T22:33:48Z")
I’m still thinking it’s Dorothy. Maybe it’s all those Austin Powers, Goldmember ads, hee. “Mole! Mole!” Anyway, I think the clue is… when Coop woke everybody else up, they were in bed asleep. But Dorothy was waiting at the door, with a sweatshirt and pants. The mole would’ve known that there would be a wake up call. Yes, I know she is the obvious suspect. But maybe they chose her because nobody ever suspects the most obvious suspect? ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2002, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/14 "2002-07-10T23:46:24Z")
annieclaus said: > [@](#): > > I don’t put too much credence in the “hidden word” clues. Well, you should. They say at the beginning of every episode that we should look for the hidden clues. And this makes at least three very specific and very clear clues that point directly at Bill. If that weren’t enough, he _acts_ like the Mole. Bill **is** the Mole. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mole-ii-07-09/118123/15 "2002-07-11T15:31:21Z")
Three? I know of the telegram/phone number clue and the “Admiral” clue but what was the third? The AKA Bill thing? Or Al’s comment “Everyone at home is yelling, ‘No, you idiot. It’s Bill!’”. I don’t buy the telegram/phone number clue, btw. The reason is that the telegram wasn’t a _hidden_ clue; it was given to the players and they were allowed to keep it. Somehow I don’t think they would have given the players a clue like that; the hidden clues are for _us_, not them. OTOH the clue from the phone number is unmistakably there; the odds of that happening by random chance are worse than those of my winning the lottery. So I’m not really sure what it means. OTOOH, I now think Bill is the Mole anyway. He’s done a few too many suspicious things along the way. I thought it was Dorothy for a long time but I now think she has figured it out and is trying to mislead the other players while attempting to beef up the pot for herself.