# Mollie Tibbetts missing college student (allegedly) killed by illegal alien **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 22, 2018, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030 "2018-08-22T06:38:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/361 "2018-08-29T21:59:49Z")
Facebook via [Snopes](https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/27/mollie-tibbetts-family-statement/): > [@Sandi Tibbetts Murphy](#): > > Mollie was killed, and a man has been arrested and charged with her murder. Yes, that man is an immigrant to this country, with uncertainty as to his legal status. But it matters not. He could have been a citizen, born in this country; he could have been an older, white man from anywhere; he could have been a man from Mollie’s world. He is a man, whose path in life crossed that of Mollie’s life, with tragic results. He is a man who felt entitled to impose himself on Mollie’s life, without consequence. He is a man who, because of his sense of male entitlement, refused to allow Mollie the right to reject his advances – the right to her own autonomy. Mollie was murdered because a man denied her right to say no. > > Our national discussion needs to be about the violence committed in our society, mostly by men, as seen by these grim statistics from the FBI: > • 89.5% of murders are committed by men. > • 98.9% of forcible rapes are committed by men. > • 80% of violence against families and children is committed by men. > • 85% of intimate partner violence is committed by men. > > We must be willing to address the way we raise our boys and young men, so that violence is not a part of their response to this world. Like the recent murders of the Colorado family or the similarly tragic homicide of Kate Steinle, Mollie’s death is further example of the toxic masculinity that exists in our society. > > Mollie’s murder is truly tragic and horrifically painful for all of us who knew and loved her, the extinguishing of a treasured spirit much too soon. It is not your right to exacerbate this grievous act by hijacking Mollie and all she believed with your racist fear-mongering. You do not get to use her murder to inaccurately promote your “permanently separated” hyperbole. You do not have permission to callously use this tragedy to demonize an entire population for the acts of one man. > > No. We reclaim our Mollie. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/362 "2021-05-28T20:22:08Z")
The man has been convicted. > **[Farm worker found guilty of killing University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/us/mollie-tibbetts-murder-trial/index.html)** > > A 26-year-old farm worker was found guilty of first-degree murder Friday in the abduction and fatal stabbing of college student Mollie Tibbetts in July 2018. The verdict comes nearly three years after the body of the 20-year-old woman was found in an... ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/363 "2021-05-29T01:36:51Z")
Amazing that the jury didn’t buy the killer’s alibi (that two masked mystery men kidnapped him, forced him to drive to where Tibbetts was jogging, then after one of them killed her, put the body in the trunk of his car). Best defense claim since Ira Einhorn fingered the C.I.A. in the murder of his girlfriend and concealment of her body in his apartment closet (they framed him because he knew too much about the agency’s paranormal activities, you see). It’s a bit hard to understand why the Tibbetts jury needed 7 hours to reach a verdict. Were the meals that good? ---
**Author:** ![LivingGhost371](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@LivingGhost371](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LivingGhost371)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/364 "2021-05-31T20:52:10Z")
I watched the entire trial. As a juror I probably would have convicted him anyway, but I’d have an easier and faster time if the prosecution had produced more in the way of alibi witnesses for Dalton. I get that his boss said he was in Dubuque, but maybe put on his roommate and another co-worker on the stand. Maybe his boss is perjuring himself, but multiple people aren’t likely to. He also didn’t do himself any favors with the wild story, which reminded me of the Jodi Arias “Ninja” allegations. To play devil’s advocate, if he had to get on the stand at all, which I still don’t think was a good idea, it should have been something like this: “I happened to be out driving when I saw Mollie jogging. I thought she was attractive so I pulled up and suggested we go out for coffee. Instead she called me an [explicative] creep and said she was calling the police. I know as an illegal alien I’d be immediately deported, so I snapped and blacked out (like I’ve done before) and when I came to there was her body in her trunk. Since I had no intention of killing her I had no idea what to do with her body. I didn’t have a shovel or a place in mind or anything, so I just left it in a random corn field and covered it the best I could.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/365 "2021-05-31T21:08:44Z")
OP Why make a point of his immigration status? ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/366 "2021-05-31T23:10:26Z")
This thread is 3 yrs old and the op hasn’t posted in over a year, so… ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030/367 "2021-05-31T23:56:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > OP Why make a point of his immigration status? When data do not support a preferred narrative, bring anecdotes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mollie-tibbetts-missing-college-student-allegedly-killed-by-illegal-alien/820030.md?page=18)