# Mom gives Botox Injections to 8 Year Old **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 13, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760 "2011-05-13T04:27:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/1 "2011-05-13T04:27:55Z")
[8 year old pageant contestant gets botox injections and leg waxing from mom.](http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-year-daughter-botox-young-young/story?id=13580804) Apparently it was the daughter’s idea, because she was concerned about her wrinkles. Good? Bad? Indifferent? ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/2 "2011-05-13T04:38:48Z")
Child beauty pageants always skeeve me out, so when a child “asks” to go as far as this, I can’t help but think the impetus isn’t entirely from within her own mind. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/3 "2011-05-13T04:48:18Z")
> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#): > > Child beauty pageants always skeeve me out, so when a child “asks” to go as far as this, I can’t help but think the impetus isn’t entirely from within her own mind. That’s what I think, too - the defence for this that the moms always use is that the kids love it and they are the ones always wanting to be in pageants and do all the stuff involved in that. That defence has always rung hollow to me. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/4 "2011-05-13T05:06:40Z")
I’m just a bit puzzled how there could be any wrinkles to smoothen, in an 8 yr old’s face. ---
**Author:** ![Tracyfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@Tracyfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracyfish)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/5 "2011-05-13T05:11:38Z")
This made me really sad for the little girl. What kind of a lesson does that teach her? Has anyone ever seen a little girl with wrinkles? Also, based on the video, it almost seems like it really wasn’t the girl’s idea. Her mom kind of evaded the question about whether her daughter asked for it by answering, “She didn’t exactly ask me about it, but I know she was complaining about her face and wrinkles.” Sounds kind of like the daughter mentioned having wrinkles and her mom put the idea in her head. ---
**Author:** ![Snnipe\_70E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@Snnipe\_70E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snnipe_70E)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/6 "2011-05-13T05:13:54Z")
Seems like child endangerment. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/7 "2011-05-13T05:14:12Z")
Did she do the slut walk? It’s always a winner among juries, and if done with proper enthusiasm, 8 years old wrinkles might be overlooked. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/8 "2011-05-13T05:17:17Z")
That’s sick, twisted, and if that woman really is a licensed aesthetician, she should have her license revoked. The only reason a little kid would get that idea in her head is because she hears her mother complaining about her own problems. There is a real danger of injecting a nerve and causing permanent facial paralysis. That’s why only medical doctors should be administering Botox, along with any other medical procedures that should require the patient to sign a consent form. That child really could end up looking like she has Bell’s Palsy or something for the rest of her life, with no one but her mother to blame. A little kid cannot make an informed decision for something like Botox. ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/9 "2011-05-13T05:26:12Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [8 year old pageant contestant gets botox injections and leg waxing from mom.](http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-year-daughter-botox-young-young/story?id=13580804) Apparently it was the daughter’s idea, because she was concerned about her wrinkles. > > Good? Bad? Indifferent? Given how much you despise children, why would you care? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/10 "2011-05-13T05:30:57Z")
And I was uneasy about adults getting _themselves_ shot up with [Botox](http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/full-frontal-psychology/does-botox-impair-empathy.html). > [@Wray Herbert](#): > > New evidence is now suggesting that Botox may harm not only the expression of emotion, but also its comprehension. The facial paralysis that does away with unwanted frown lines may cripple a crucial ability to process emotional language. > … > As reported on line this week in the journal Psychological Science, the scientists not only verified their theory of language processing, they also showed that getting rid of frowns selectively impairs the ability to understand angry and sad sentences. In other words, it’s normal to frown—undetectably—when we try to process anger and sadness. If we can’t frown, our emotional understanding breaks down. [This article](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/3485305/I-give-my-girl-8-Botox-for-pageant.html) yields more clues to Kerry Campbell’s thinking, and its impact on her daughter. > [@Kerry Campbell](#): > > When Britney takes part in pageants, parents talk about how they have given their daughter an extra jab to plump her lips or lose a wrinkle. Everyone is doing it… I’d rather she be perfect and have a little frozen face. Some people say her eyebrows look a little pulled already but they look striking… She also has her virgin wax monthly, which gets rid of her fluffy leg hair and makes sure she wont develop pubic hair in the future. It will save her a fortune in waxing when she’s older. > [@Britney Campbell](#): > > My friends think it’s cool I have all the treatments and they want to be like me. I check every night for wrinkles, when I see some I want more injections. They used to hurt, but now I don’t cry that much. I also want a boob and nose job soon, so that I can be a star. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/11 "2011-05-13T05:37:18Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > **Britney Campbell** : > > I also want a boob and nose job soon, so that I can be a star. Christ, I already wouldnt trutst that much a “look specialist” that seems a few pounds short of being morbidly obese, but that shit, just whao. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/12 "2011-05-13T05:41:07Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > And I was uneasy about adults getting _themselves_ shot up with [Botox](http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/full-frontal-psychology/does-botox-impair-empathy.html). > > [This article](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/3485305/I-give-my-girl-8-Botox-for-pageant.html) yields more clues to Kerry Campbell’s thinking, and its impact on her daughter. Those quotes are pretty horrific. I bet the Mum knows this, and that the resultant publicity will get her daughter on TV or having lots of talk about her online, and that’s what counts. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/13 "2011-05-13T05:57:09Z")
Giving Botox injections to a child seems pretty horrible to me. And after reading those quotes, the waxing sounds pretty skeevy too. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/14 "2011-05-13T06:14:21Z")
> [@keturah](#): > > Given how much you despise children, why would you care? Someone can be childfree and generally dislike children, and still be disturbed by cruelty aimed at said children. It is possible to have empathy for those we dislike, a very human trait it is. I’m mostly disturbed by Child Beauty Pageants because of how far the pushing inevitably goes. Little girls like dressing up in pretty dresses and having people ooh and ahh over them. I have no argument with that facet. But IMO that’s as far as it should go. It’s the unceasing drive to win win WIN at all costs, to the point where they are spraying, waxing, shaving, piercing, injecting and otherwise trying to mould their daughters through unnatural means, that bothers me. I can see how a little girl “likes it” and asks for it when “it” is dressing up, putting on some lip gloss and getting told how pretty she is. I can also see how that morphs into her “liking it” because the only way she gets any positive attention from mommy is when she’s the Most Perfectest Pretty Princess of Them All, and that saddens me. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/15 "2011-05-13T08:10:48Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [8 year old pageant contestant gets botox injections and leg waxing from mom.](http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-year-daughter-botox-young-young/story?id=13580804) Apparently it was the daughter’s idea, because she was concerned about her wrinkles. > [@spark240](#): > > [This article](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/3485305/I-give-my-girl-8-Botox-for-pageant.html) yields more clues to Kerry Campbell’s thinking, and its impact on her daughter. Am i missing something here? Why are Britney and Kerry from San Francisco, California in the OP’s linked article, and yet the same Britney and Kerry are apparently from Birmingham, England in the article linked by **spark240**? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/16 "2011-05-13T08:56:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Am i missing something here? > > Why are Britney and Kerry from San Francisco, California in the OP’s linked article, and yet the same Britney and Kerry are apparently from Birmingham, England in the article linked by **spark240**? Maybe the idiocy is intercontinentally contagious? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/17 "2011-05-13T09:32:51Z")
Parents are meant to stop kids from doing stupid things and not give in just because the kid wants something inappropriate. This lady even gives her the shots herself which is even more irresponsible. She could really mess up the kid. She needs the child put under supervision by the state social services, and to be put on notice that injecting the kid again will get her jail time and loss of custodial privileges. People discount the dangers of Botox injections too much and it becomes less effective the more you use it. I had it twice for medical reasons. The first time I had 6 months of relief. The second time only partial relief for a couple months. I would not get it for wrinkle smoothing. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/18 "2011-05-13T09:38:24Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Am i missing something here? > > Why are Britney and Kerry from San Francisco, California in the OP’s linked article, and yet the same Britney and Kerry are apparently from Birmingham, England in the article linked by **spark240**? A quick Googling veers strongly towards them being British. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/19 "2011-05-13T09:51:16Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Am i missing something here? > > Why are Britney and Kerry from San Francisco, California in the OP’s linked article, and yet the same Britney and Kerry are apparently from Birmingham, England in the article linked by **spark240**? The British Sun article indicates that they’re originally from Birmingham, but have moved to San Francisco. Please keep them. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760/20 "2011-05-13T10:00:09Z")
I would be willing to bet she uses that crap for eyelashes as well, the stuff that can change eye color and really should not be used for purely cosmetic reasons … mrAru has a valid medical reason to have used it, alopecia [eyelashes are used to help keep particulates out of the eyes …] and even he thinks using it just for better eyelashes when you actually still have eyelashes is just fucking stupid. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-gives-botox-injections-to-8-year-old/581760.md?page=2)