# Mom Indicted for Hiring Stripper for Son **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 29, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962 "2005-05-29T05:46:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/1 "2005-05-29T05:46:04Z")
News story [here.](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/birthday_party_stripper;_ylt=AsbaGZ8Yuej9OkRNptrQDtUDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl) Never mind if you think the mother should have done this, do you think she should be _allowed_ to do this? ---
**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/2 "2005-05-29T05:56:21Z")
Yes. All the stripper did was take off her clothes and dance in the presence of her son. So merely seeing a nude, dancing woman will make her son delinquent? ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/3 "2005-05-29T06:06:40Z")
Yes, she should be allowed to. Where’s the harm? > [@](#): > > Drug store employees notified authorities, police said. I’d like to thank the store employees for the push of the digital camera market. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/4 "2005-05-29T06:30:04Z")
Don’t see any legal or strictly moral problem with what she did (I consider it inappropriate and wouldn’t do it personally for my son.) If it was a hooker or the mom agreed to strip for the son I can see where it could be considered a type of sexual abuse, though. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/5 "2005-05-29T06:31:08Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > I’d like to thank the store employees for the push of the digital camera market. Wow I must be really naive but I never figured something like pics of a stripper at a teenage party would be reported to the police by a drugstore photoshop. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/6 "2005-05-29T06:42:44Z")
A private non-tactile performance by a stripper in a family home for a sixteen year old’s birthday I can maaaaaaaybe see. A semi-public performance at an adult establishment with a stripper with other non-family underage minors and documenting things with a camera and trying to get the pictures developed…? Nah, nah, nah, nah. All he needs to be doing is stuffing bills in her costumes and the corruption is established. I doubt a group of horny underage teenage boys wouldn’t be grabby. I mean, I have this thing about flagrantly breaking sexual taboos. This is a bit much. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/7 "2005-05-29T06:44:26Z")
Yes should should be indicted. It wasnt just her son, it was a bunch of other peoples sons too. And yes if you try to develop photos of minors in a sexual situation at the photo shop you willl get the cops called on you. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/8 "2005-05-29T06:44:37Z")
Perhaps there were other activities going on at the same time such as drinking or drug use. It does seem like an overly oppressive application of the law vis-a-vis minors. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/9 "2005-05-29T06:54:45Z")
It’s probably because the strip tease is considered to be of a sexual nature, the stripper is at least 18, probably over 21, exposing herself to males too young to legally consent to sex, if the age of consent there is eighteen. The mom wasn’t very bright to take the pictures to the drugstore to have them developed in any case, especially considering that some of the photos must have had the stripper clear nude given the prosecutor’s statement. I guess in the eyes of the law, the guys have to wait two years before they can do those things. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/10 "2005-05-29T07:12:42Z")
Mom?! Legally, I’m not sure since there are so many weird laws in so many different states concerning the interaction between minors and adults and the arbitrary “age of consent” (which can be, say…16, maybe 14 in some places I think). Morally, I think this is hogwash. Please point me to the victim (other than perhaps a severe case of blue balls). ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/11 "2005-05-29T11:52:21Z")
Sounds icky, but hardly a cause to waste court time and money over. Couldn’t the cops have issued a warning or something? ---
**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/12 "2005-05-29T18:54:05Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Sounds icky, but hardly a cause to waste court time and money over. Couldn’t the cops have issued a warning or something? This is what I was thinking. As a prosecutor, I’d be afraid of the jury laughing me out of court. Or at mimimum, a hung jury. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/13 "2005-05-29T19:31:57Z")
Does “involving a minor in obscene acts” refer just to the stripping or was there more (a lap dance perhaps)? It would make a slight difference. She broke the law and she and the stripper should pay a fine. I think it should end there so long as there was no sexual activity. I can’t imagine that many teenaged boys are irate at seeing naked boobies. ---
**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/14 "2005-05-29T20:32:55Z")
Othe news reports: [http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Beats-pin-the-tail/2005/05/29/1117305489127.html?oneclick=true](http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Beats-pin-the-tail/2005/05/29/1117305489127.html?oneclick=true) “We even had grandpa there,” his mother said." ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/15 "2005-05-29T21:01:33Z")
(1) In most jurisdictions it’s strictly against the law to have people under 18 as customers of any kind of strip show, period. It just is under the definition of delinquency, never mind real effect. (2) In many jurisdictions, photo-processing businesses are _mandated_ by law or regulation, to report any material that portrays illegal activity involving minors. (3) In the last few decades, the enforcement of laws regarding shady activities involving minors has become really, really absolutist, because stiffening penalties for “corrupting minors” is a cheap way to be portrayed as an authority that will _“THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!”_ This Court finds Mom guilty of Second Degree Stupid (Not 1st., since nobody was really hurt) for not thinking about these basic facts of life in our age. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/16 "2005-05-29T21:37:44Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > She broke the law and she and the stripper should pay a fine. I think it should end there so long as there was no sexual activity. I can’t imagine that many teenaged boys are irate at seeing naked boobies. I certainly couldn’t enjoy watching naked boobies while my mother and father were around. Marc ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/17 "2005-05-29T22:53:45Z")
> [@MGibson](#): > > I certainly couldn’t enjoy watching naked boobies while my mother and father were around. > > Marc What about grandpa? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/18 "2005-05-30T02:13:11Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > What about grandpa? Not grandpa, not grandma, not ma, not pa, and not even good 'old sis. I don’t think it’s appropriate to take your 16 year old son to a strip joint but I also don’t think it’s the biggest deal in the world. The mother, and I would assume the father, have broken the law and they should suffer the consequences. It’s a minor offense though I don’t exactly think the law is going to stomp on them with both feet. Marc ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/19 "2005-05-30T03:25:44Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > It wasnt just her son, it was a bunch of other peoples sons too. This would be my concern, too. You want to have a stripper perform for your son, fine, but not for someone else’s son, unless you’ve spoken with them beforehand. As long as the kid’s parents are OK with it, I don’t see where the state has a reason to intervene. That said, I would like to reiterate that this is an extremely yucky thing for mom to do. I say that as I remember the time my friends and I got into a strip joint using hiariously bogus fake IDs, and before the clampdown on contact across the rail. As nasty as that was (and I was only 15 at the time), at least I didn’t have multiple generations of my family cheering me on. I also did not have to juxtapose the image of a pretty girl in nothing but her underpants with that of grandpa smacking his lips. I have, therefore, been able to have sex since my experience. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962/20 "2005-05-30T04:25:14Z")
What if I hired a male stripper for my daughter’s 16th birthday party. No harm done? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mom-indicted-for-hiring-stripper-for-son/305962.md?page=2)