# Mom's "Apology" To Friends Without Kids **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 28, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487 "2014-05-28T18:50:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/61 "2014-05-29T02:01:29Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > Strange, my mom managed to raise 4 kids and still have time for people. Nonsense. Parents have always focused complete attention on their kids to the exclusion of friends, family and each other, lest the kids melt down and morph into sociopaths. It’s only recently though that they’ve taken to blogging and making Internet videos about this awesome responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/62 "2014-05-29T02:03:47Z")
I swore up and down that I wouldn’t break my stride after the baby. I used to be out around town 4-5 days a week at various events. So the plan was hubby and I would switch off nights out, I’d drag baby everywhere (which would be easy with the mini-diaper bag I thoughtfully prepared) and we would hire the first sitter on Craig’s List. I thought babies were just an excuse lame people used to be lame, and I wouldn’t fall in to that trap. Hahahha. Hahahhaha. Haha. Hahahhaha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha. The upside is we do go on date nights, most of which consist of us driving straight home for a much needed nap. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/63 "2014-05-29T02:06:25Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Let’s be sympathetic, shall we? She’s so busy, she barely has time to create, edit and post dozens of videos of herself to YouTube. That shiftless famewhore! Fancy wasting time on earning money from home through a successful YouTube channel with 87,000 subscribers instead of doing something important like having coffee with her friends. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/64 "2014-05-29T02:10:34Z")
> [@Eliahna](#): > > That shiftless famewhore! Fancy wasting time on earning money from home through a successful YouTube channel with 87,000 subscribers instead of doing something important like having coffee with her friends. if you have time to run a YouTube channel with 87,000 subscribers you have time to answer a text a friend sent you. its a matter of choice. not time or resources. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/65 "2014-05-29T02:10:53Z")
In my experience people who choose to be childless, and are vociferous about it, did not have a pleasant childhood. I’m not stating this as fact about the OP, but it has anecdotally been my experience. And **Cat Whisperer** , I know we’re country mates and have exchanged a lot of posts over the years, but calling the YouTube gal horrible is worrisome to me. She’s just an overwhelmed mommy making a funny video. **Labrador Deceiver** is correct, you do in fact have a history of making disparaging comments about parents and kids: enough that I’ve noticed it at least. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/66 "2014-05-29T02:14:25Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > if you have time to run a YouTube channel with 87,000 subscribers you have time to answer a text a friend sent you. its a matter of choice. not time or resources. Didn’t the video actually show her texting? Some of you aren’t even trying. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/67 "2014-05-29T02:21:16Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Didn’t the video actually show her texting? > > Some of you aren’t even trying. yes with the clear indication that she ignores many texts ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/68 "2014-05-29T02:22:28Z")
Big deal, we all have posting histories and pet topics. Many posters have histories of making a certain kind of comment to the point that I’ve noticed it. ---
**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/69 "2014-05-29T02:25:21Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > And **Cat Whisperer** , I know we’re country mates and have exchanged a lot of posts over the years, but calling the YouTube gal horrible is worrisome to me. She’s just an overwhelmed mommy making a funny video. > > **Labrador Deceiver** is correct, you do in fact have a history of making disparaging comments about parents and kids: enough that I’ve noticed it at least. I actually agree. I like **Cat Whisperer** overall, and we are even city mates (and apparently live pretty close to one and other), but when I think of her, I think of her hate of parents and children, and off-leash dogs. Maybe it’s just confirmation bias, but it seems to be _at least_ 50% of what she posts about. I’m hoping her upcoming move will make her happier. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/70 "2014-05-29T02:25:52Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > What we don’t quite understand is why you don’t have two minutes every month or so to send an email that says you’re still alive, or why you can never, ever get a babysitter and be an adult for a few hours once or twice a year. Oh, we get a babysitter and are adults for a few hours more than once or twice a year. Do you really think we’re going to spend our time without kids hanging out with you? Even if you’re my best friend without a kid, you’re not gonna see me on a babysitting night, because that’s when we have our very rare dates. My kids take the bulk of my non-work hours, but when I have non-work hours without kids, my wife gets it. That’s not exactly true. We both need to spend time with friends, so we trade off: on Friday, I’ll go out with some work friends after work, and then maybe next weekend she’ll go see a friend while I take care of the kids. Every other Sunday I take one kid to a friend’s house, and my kid plays with his kid while the grownups game. We get creative. But if you don’t have kids, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE KIND OF AN ASSHOLE ABOUT THAT, you’re gonna see a lot less of me now that I’m a dad than you would’ve before. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/71 "2014-05-29T02:28:46Z")
What a phenomenally stupid OP. ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/72 "2014-05-29T02:28:47Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > if you have time to run a YouTube channel with 87,000 subscribers you have time to answer a text a friend sent you. its a matter of choice. not time or resources. I’m pretty sure that she answers texts and has freinds. Again, this is a small business for her and is not meant to be anything other than funny to other mothers of infants and toddlers. Really. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/73 "2014-05-29T02:30:06Z")
My only problem is that it’s not particularly funny. Except maybe to newish parents in the throes of toddlerbrain, I guess. And **Leaf** , no offence . . . but you actually find her hot? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/74 "2014-05-29T02:36:10Z")
> [@andros](#): > > My only problem is that it’s not particularly funny. Except maybe to newish parents in the throes of toddlerbrain, I guess. > > And **Leaf** , no offence . . . but you actually find her hot? Seriously? Yep. It is too scripted-she is trying to be funny. The funniest thing about this is the bump in views she has gotten from the child free outraged people. I saw this on my fb feed and skipped it. Only watched it to see what the fuss was about. Last laugh and all that… ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/75 "2014-05-29T02:41:15Z")
> [@keturah](#): > > I’m pretty sure that she answers texts and has freinds. Again, this is a small business for her and is not meant to be anything other than funny to other mothers of infants and toddlers. Really. and i’m sure this has much to do with your opinion vs my opinion. pretty much all the responses on here are on one side or the other. it seems like a big lie to me however if she says she is too busy to socialize but has a popular youtube channel. ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/76 "2014-05-29T02:41:31Z")
I don’t find the video funny, but I don’t think it’s pit-worthy either. FWIW, (for **Leaffan)**, I don’t have kids, never wanted them, don’t much like them, and had an absolutely wonderful childhood. Got along with siblings and parents, parents stayed married, I was pretty spoiled and well educated. I’m just not cut out for motherhood, and the whole topic leaves me kinda ‘meh’. I will admit though that on hearing that friends were going to be having a baby, my mouth said Congratulations!! and my heart groaned because I knew our friendship would never be the same. Selfish? Yep. That’s why I was better off being kidless. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/77 "2014-05-29T02:51:28Z")
> [@andros](#): > > And **Leaf** , no offence . . . but you actually find her hot? Seriously? Yes. Yes I do. Totally my type. ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/78 "2014-05-29T03:16:53Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > and i’m sure this has much to do with your opinion vs my opinion. pretty much all the responses on here are on one side or the other. it seems like a big lie to me however if she says she is too busy to socialize but has a popular youtube channel. I actually think is has rather more to do with whether you think that this video is really her true feelings vs a an attempt at being funny. You think it is real, while I believe it is a parody with some truth embedded. There is no one side or other, just a difference in perception. Again, this is not an actual apology to her friends…it is a side business for her, trying to be funny about parenthood and getting a few views. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/79 "2014-05-29T03:24:22Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I swore up and down that I wouldn’t break my stride after the baby. I used to be out around town 4-5 days a week at various events. So the plan was hubby and I would switch off nights out, I’d drag baby everywhere (which would be easy with the mini-diaper bag I thoughtfully prepared) and we would hire the first sitter on Craig’s List. I thought babies were just an excuse lame people used to be lame, and I wouldn’t fall in to that trap. > > Hahahha. Hahahhaha. Haha. Hahahhaha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha. > > The upside is we do go on date nights, most of which consist of us driving straight home for a much needed nap. No kidding! As the father of a nearly-3 year old and a 1 month old, I recently had the opportunity to fly down to Houston and attend my brother’s wedding & reception. There wasn’t anything stopping me from partying the night away with his & my friends, but what did I do? Drove my 89 year old grandmother home at 10:00, went back to my parents house, and crashed for about 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep. That’s the kind of thing that excites you when you have babies and toddlers. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487/80 "2014-05-29T03:26:35Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > and i’m sure this has much to do with your opinion vs my opinion. pretty much all the responses on here are on one side or the other. it seems like a big lie to me however if she says she is too busy to socialize but has a popular youtube channel. Replace “popular YouTube channel” with “successful home based business”, because that’s what it is. “She’s too busy to socialize but has a successful home based business”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-apology-to-friends-without-kids/689487.md?page=5)