# Moms for Liberty lose big

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 8, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841 "2023-11-08T18:18:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/162 "2023-12-25T01:18:47Z")

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Great. Now they’re trying to steal the wokeness.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/163 "2023-12-25T01:26:37Z")

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The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea just called, and they’re not happy that MFL is trying to deliberately break the Ironic Names Plausibility Barrier and make it harder for hypocritical regimes and organizations the world over to not blow their cover.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/164 "2023-12-25T13:28:17Z")

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Bravo @John_DiFool

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/165 "2023-12-25T14:55:58Z")

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Given that woke is the past tense of wake and a wake can sink a small boat…  
What kind of monsters are you people? Can’t you just let these ~~morans~~ fine people live with their bad choices and not rub it in?

[![](https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/trump-boat-swamped3-ugc-mo-20200905_1599343126108_hpEmbed_11x8_992.jpg) ](https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/trump-boat-swamped3-ugc-mo-20200905_1599343126108_hpEmbed_11x8_992.jpg)

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/166 "2023-12-25T15:31:43Z")

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A wake, Americans! (AKA Dumbkirk).

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/167 "2023-12-25T20:06:58Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> She admitted to having sex with the other woman and her husband once on a specific date, not that it was the only time they had sex. I certainly appreciate your integrity in wanting to dial back to only what can be definitely established from publicly available statements so far, but there’s also this from the affidavit:

Uh-oh. Who could possibly have seen this one coming? Moms for Liberty founder identified in second sex tape with another woman. Didn’t even know she was in a first one until now.

> **[Cops Uncover 2nd Sex Tape Of Embattled Moms For Liberty Founder](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeKfq2fk-g8%2F)**
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> The embattled co-founder of Moms for Liberty, Bridget Ziegler, has been identified by police in a SECOND sex video that they uncovered as part of their ongoi...

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/168 "2023-12-26T15:43:54Z")

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From an Advocate article on this one:

> Every statewide official, starting with DeSantis, has called for Christian Ziegler to resign, and the Republican Party of Florida’s executive board last week reduced his salary,[censured him](https://www.advocate.com/politics/florida-gop-christian-ziegler-censored) and set in motion a process to remove him in January. **Christian Ziegler is [reportedly](https://themessenger.com/politics/founder-of-anti-lgbt-moms-for-liberty-filmed-sex-tape-with-other-woman-report) seeking a $2 million payout to step down.**

My take:

Ziegler: “Yeah, I know I’m the public face of your party organization, with a job of making the party look good to conservatives with traditional family values. And I’m charged with rape. And there are sex tapes circulating of me and my wife getting it on with other women. So, $2 million makes this problem go away.”

> **[Anti-LGBTQ+ Moms for Liberty Co-Founder Bridget Ziegler Filmed Another Sex...](https://www.advocate.com/news/bridget-ziegler-sex-woman#toggle-gdpr)**
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> Bridget Ziegler stood beside Republican GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis as he signed the state's infamous "don't say gay" law.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/169 "2023-12-26T16:12:12Z")

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A former Sarasota student has a few wise words for Ziegler; to wit: she shouldn’t step down because she had a threesome, she should step down because she’s absolutely shit at her job.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yq4LMi5-C6o/maxresdefault.jpg "Former Student Rips Into Sarasota School Board Member’s Hypocrisy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq4LMi5-C6o)

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/170 "2023-12-26T17:57:42Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> My take:
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> Ziegler: “Yeah, I know I’m the public face of your party organization, with a job of making the party look good to conservatives with traditional family values. And I’m charged with rape. And there are sex tapes circulating of me and my wife getting it on with other women. So, $2 million makes this problem go away.”

My take:

Ziegler: “Do you know how much grift I expected to rake in from this job? You guys are robbing me! I think about two mil will barely cover my plans for a sex dungeon in the basement. Better give me that or I start speading around the photos. Not mine. Yours.”

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/171 "2023-12-26T20:14:05Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> A former Sarasota student has a few wise words for Ziegler

That’s impressive. Thanks for posting it.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/172 "2024-01-10T05:14:57Z")

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Ziegler has been fired by the state GOP, by a vote of 199 to 3

> **[Rape investigation costs Ziegler his job as Florida GOP appoints a new chairman](https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article283959528.html)**
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> The Monday vote to oust Zeigler went 199-3.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/173 "2024-01-10T14:41:19Z")

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Makes you wonder who the “3” were and what they thought they were standing up for.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/174 "2024-01-10T14:45:29Z")

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Well, I’m assuming that one of the three was Ziegler. I guess that makes up a different kind of “threesom”.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/175 "2024-01-10T15:01:03Z")

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A Threesome for Freedom? A Freesome?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/176 "2024-01-10T16:32:16Z")

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> **[braveheart freedom](https://imgflip.com/i/8bwdex)**
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> An image tagged braveheart freedom

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/177 "2024-01-10T20:05:48Z")

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I hope freesome becomes a cromulent term.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/178 "2024-01-12T00:13:09Z")

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A school board member in TN backed by MFL has been arrested for shoplifting from Target.

> **[Moms for Liberty school board member busted for shoplifting from Target](https://www.rawstory.com/keri-blair-moms-for-liberty/)**
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> A right-wing Tennessee school board member backed by the Moms for Liberty group has been arrested on shoplifting charges.Keri Blair, who was elected in November 2022 following a campaign against tolerant "social agendas," is accused of stealing items...

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/179 "2024-01-12T00:41:03Z")

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I am going to guess, based on the years I spent up on the grocery store catwalk with the security guards, that a substantial part of what she stole was makeup.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/180 "2024-01-12T01:27:10Z")

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Hey, when you’re a Mom appearing on tv news shows to plead for Liberty, you want to look your very best!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moms-for-liberty-lose-big/992841/181 "2024-01-12T01:49:45Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> that a substantial part of what she stole was makeup

That shit be expensive. Scruffy loser chix wanna look good too.

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