# Moncton Shooter.   What rifle?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 6, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168 "2014-06-06T01:24:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fishtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ed655f/32.png) [@Fishtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fishtar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/1 "2014-06-06T01:24:25Z")

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Just wondering…What class of rifle is in his right hand?

Since the vast majority of all murders in the U.S. are by handgun, I usually view talk of banning types of rifle as reactionary and opportunist. But this kid took out 5 cops… I am curious to know what weapon was used. Does not look like an AR, or AK, Or SKS…to me.

Also, there are reports he was messing around with his Facebook page after the murders. Video game generation?

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/2 "2014-06-06T01:31:36Z")

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It looks like an [M1 Carbine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine) to me.

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**Author:** ![Fishtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ed655f/32.png) [@Fishtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fishtar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/3 "2014-06-06T01:36:42Z")

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> [@robert\_columbia](#):
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> It looks like an [M1 Carbine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine) to me.

If so, not exactly a weapon of mass destruction. But the magazine looks a bit too thick to me. Might just be the angle though.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/4 "2014-06-06T01:46:36Z")

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It looks like a M14 to me, though a M1 carbine is certainly possible. It looks like he also has a AR-15 with an adjustable stock behind him, though it may also be a shotgun like the Mossberg 500 Tactical.

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**Author:** ![Boogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Boogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boogly)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/5 "2014-06-06T01:49:02Z")

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A single news report says it is an M14.

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**Author:** ![Fishtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ed655f/32.png) [@Fishtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fishtar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/6 "2014-06-06T02:00:30Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> It looks like a M14 to me, though a M1 carbine is certainly possible. It looks like he also has a AR-15 with an adjustable stock behind him, though it may also be a shotgun like the Mossberg 500 Tactical.

> [@Boogly](#):
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> A single news report says it is an M14.

Airman and Huffpost seem to agree. And that looks right to me. M14/M1A is no joke…308…

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**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/7 "2014-06-06T03:26:32Z")

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> [@robert\_columbia](#):
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> It looks like an [M1 Carbine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine) to me.

Too large to be a m1 carbine. It’s too long, the stock isn’t the right shape and the magazine is too wide.

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moncton-shooter-what-rifle/690168/8 "2014-06-06T18:25:40Z")

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The article isn’t on their online service yet, but an article in today’s Toronto Star thestar.ca described his weapons as a Chinese made M14, and a 12ga.  
Here in Canada, the Norinco rifles are popular. I think they’re not allowed for import into the US, which has kept prices low.
